We have seen a lot of this actually.  For small trailer parks or neighborhood 
blocks that can't see a tower.  Basically, have a Moto SM go to a rooftop that 
can reach the AP and then put a NS2 behind it pointing in the direction of a 
group of houses that you normally can't see.  Put the NS2 in AP mode and reach 
an addition 5-10 customers.  The cost of a Moto AP may not justify adding a 
small 5-10 customers but the NS2 makes a little more sense.  

I personally wouldn't recommend this because network management can become a 
huge PITA but for "smaller SPs" every dollar increase matters. 

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
"There is a difference"

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Francois D. Menard
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubnt vs Moto vs ... your brand

Actually, both work together ... we extend our Canopy PPPoE bridged segments 
with Ubnt's for el-cheapo point-to-point extensions ...

Sort of a Moto Canopy P2MP-to-UBnt(P)-to-UBnt(P)

F.

On 2010-04-13, at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> It's not so much what you're discussing there as much as the capabilities of
> the ptmp products.
> 
> You simply can not offer the latency guarantees using Ubiquiti/802.11 that
> Canopy provides.
> 
> Now if you've got 3 people to serve I think it's financially ridiculous to
> get a Canopy system involved...
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> 
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> wrote:
> 
>> In trying to make the right buying decision - some simple answers may
>> help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1.  What is the meantime failure rate for your ubiquity equipment
>> 
>> 2.  What is the avg amount of truck rolls per week you run to fix an
>> issue vs the # of customers you have?
>> ie- if you have say 1500 clients and do 8 troubleshooting calls a week
>> then it would be 1500/8 = .0053% )
>> 
>> 3.  how often does a tech call come in (w/o a truck roll) that is
>> equipment related...  For some reason I think some of the ubiquity
>> radios just need a power cycle and voila - they behave much better...
>> so - what is the average # of calls per total clients that come in
>> that are fixed w/ simple methods vs a truck roll for the ubiquity
>> users ...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Moto Users - do you have this info as well:
>> 
>> Reason I ask is because I am wondering - if the cost of Moto is
>> actually worth it...  as a smaller operator - this information would
>> be most beneficial for sure.
>> 
>> Buying a Moto radio - even if 2 or 3 times the $$ if - the service
>> calls on the back side are much less - might be worth it.
>> 
>> Perhaps the cost of Radio vs People (both in manpower as well as
>> client satisfaction for uptime) make the buying decision much
>> easier...  but having some numbers to go along with this would be great.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> 
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