If you want to do voip I would start out with a wholesale solution. Vox is a wispa member and does a pretty good job. I sell to business only so my per line charge is much higher than residential. It takes way to many residential lines to make any money.
Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > All of this is way more work then I want to do for VoIP, especially > when > we're already at 600/mo for a PRI!!! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to co > ntinue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Jayson Baker > <jay...@spectrasurf.com>wrote: > >> So put 2 garage sale PC's at the tower. :-) >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Josh Luthman >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >> >>> I'm not suggesting you need a high end machine but rather you need >>> to >> make >>> sure that box is working. When it comes to someones phone calls >>> the last >>> thing I want to be the case is the garage sale PC at the tower has a >>> hardware problem. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue >>> that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Jayson Baker >>> <jay...@spectrasurf.com >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> True. But it doesn't take much. We have a bunch of P4 2.4GHz/ >>>> 1GB RAM >>>> machines that are "old" by todays standards, but run Asterisk >>>> just fine >>>> with >>>> never more than about 10% CPU load during peak hours. >>>> As long as you don't transcode, you could even run it on a Linksys >> WRT54G >>>> router with Linux flashed. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Josh Luthman >>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> The software costs nothing but you have to pay for that hardware. >> Then >>>>> maintain it. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the cour >>>>> age to >>>> continue >>>>> that counts.” >>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jayson Baker < >> jay...@spectrasurf.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> PRI is something like $600/mo. On one particularly busy site we >> have >>>>> about >>>>>> 200 users on it, and never seen it go above 12 active channels. >>>>>> >>>>>> The ATA connects to the antenna. In our case, most are UBNT >>>>>> units. >>>> The >>>>>> UBNT does PPPoE and NAT for the customer, but VLAN 999 is passed >>>> straight >>>>>> through. The ATA picks this up and bridges the rest. VoIP >>>>>> switch >> at >>>> the >>>>>> tower is on VLAN 999, so the ATA gets it's IP from the switch and >>>>> connects >>>>>> directly to it without any routers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Use something like Trix if you think Asterisk is too much work. >>>> Cost... >>>>> I >>>>>> don't know... we downloaded Asterisk for free, so it didn't >>>>>> cost us >>>>>> anything. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman >>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How much is a PRI for each tower? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What is the ATA connecting to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've tried Asterisk and there is absolutely no comparison versus >> my >>>>>> current >>>>>>> platform in simplicity. Way too much work and cost in my >>> opinion... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the c >>>>>>> ourage to >>>>>> continue >>>>>>> that counts.” >>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Jayson Baker < >>>> jay...@spectrasurf.com >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Roll you own. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have PRI's at our tower sites (at least the primary sites), >>> and >>>>>>>> redundant >>>>>>>> Asterisk switches. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The switches have a VLAN, which is common throughout the entire >>>>> network >>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>> to the ATA/IP Phone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> VoIP doesn't touch any router. The ATA at customers house is >> on >>>> the >>>>>> same >>>>>>>> VLAN as the switch, so no NAT issues or anything. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because switch is at the tower, it's only the last mile of QoS >> we >>>>> have >>>>>> to >>>>>>>> worry about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We've done it many different ways--started out wholesaling, >>>>> rebranding, >>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>> So far this has been the simpliest and best-working solution >>> yet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Kevin Sullivan >>>>>>>> <kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We'd like to start offering VoIP to our wireless customers, >> and >>>>> we've >>>>>>>> taken >>>>>>>>> a look at a couple of packaged soultions like NetSapiens. >> What >>> is >>>>>>>> everyone >>>>>>>>> else using? 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