Eh, stupid should hurt.. and it will. :) ryan
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>wrote: > I know significantly more people on unemployment that view it as an > alternative to an honest job as opposed to a supplement until they get a > new > job. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Ryan Spott" <rsp...@cspott.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:05 AM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids > > > Obviously you have never been on unemployment. > > > > It sucks. > > > > ryan > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <k...@wavelinc.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to 100 > >> weeks.... > >> Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job. > >> > >> Kurt Fankhauser > >> WAVELINC > >> P.O. Box 126 > >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 > >> 419-562-6405 > >> www.wavelinc.com > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >> Behalf Of RickG > >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids > >> > >> Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was dated! > >> Just come help with the "family business" and I'll make sure you eat, > >> have a place to sleep, & get a percentage of the profits :) > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman > >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> > What would my allowance be with no chores? > >> > > >> > Another big thing...I never got an allowance. I worked for my money > >> > (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is. > >> > > >> > IMO it's crap. Giving a child money to do what is expected (help > >> > cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense. Both my > >> > parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn food and > >> > a bed. > >> > > >> > On 4/19/10, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Can I adopt you? :) > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman > >> >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> >>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal point of > >> view. > >> >>> > >> >>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic > >> >>> things). > >> >>> > >> >>> I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around them more > >> then > >> >>> enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank until I > >> >>> was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. My > >> >>> first > >> job > >> >>> led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, the > >> >>> people > >> >>> around me and the things I have. > >> >>> > >> >>> My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One of > them > >> gets > >> >>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc. A friend I had > in > >> high > >> >>> school was in the same position. I know where that person's life > >> stands > >> >>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we hoped our > >> lives > >> >>> would be at 23 or 24. > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just providing > >> >>> you > >> >>> with > >> >>> my experiences, my results and my facts. > >> >>> > >> >>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =) > >> >>> > >> >>> Josh Luthman > >> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> >>> 1100 Wayne St > >> >>> Suite 1337 > >> >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >> >>> > >> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > >> continue > >> >>> that counts.” > >> >>> --- Winston Churchill > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I > disagree > >> >>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make mistakes, > >> >>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids are > >> >>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that may > hurt > >> >>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the side of > >> >>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman > >> >>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> >>>> > Trust your kids and they will trust you back. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Josh Luthman > >> >>>> > Office: 937-552-2340 > >> >>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> >>>> > 1100 Wayne St > >> >>>> > Suite 1337 > >> >>>> > Troy, OH 45373 > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > >> >>>> continue > >> >>>> > that counts.” > >> >>>> > --- Winston Churchill > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger < > >> pa...@hrec.coop > >> >>>> >wrote: > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> >> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some > >> discussion > >> >>>> >> at > >> >>>> a > >> >>>> >> workshop I was at recently. > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that > >> >>>> >> was > >> >>>> >> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept > >> all > >> >>>> those > >> >>>> >> sorts of things. > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> -Paul > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > Hi All, > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from > >> >>>> >> > having > >> >>>> email > >> >>>> >> > addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having > >> >>>> >> > myspace, > >> >>>> >> > facebook etc. sites. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can > >> check > >> >>>> >> > on. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one > >> >>>> >> > that > >> *I* > >> >>>> can > >> >>>> >> > delete things from. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the > >> >>>> >> > internet > >> >>>> >> > that > >> >>>> >> might > >> >>>> >> > bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually > >> >>>> >> > forgetting > >> >>>> >> the > >> >>>> >> > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a > >> >>>> >> > hotmail > >> >>>> >> > email > >> >>>> >> > address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. > >> >>>> >> > I > >> >>>> finally > >> >>>> >> > found out about the myspace account and went in to check out > >> >>>> >> > what > >> >>>> >> > he'd > >> >>>> >> been > >> >>>> >> > saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased > >> >>>> >> > between > >> >>>> >> > when > >> >>>> I > >> >>>> >> got > >> >>>> >> > the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. > (I > >> >>>> >> > didn't > >> >>>> >> know > >> >>>> >> > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get > >> >>>> >> > on > >> the > >> >>>> net > >> >>>> >> and > >> >>>> >> > work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all > >> >>>> >> > of > >> the > >> >>>> >> deleted > >> >>>> >> > information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and > >> that > >> >>>> >> > he > >> >>>> >> had > >> >>>> >> > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was > >> being > >> >>>> >> hidden > >> >>>> >> > from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my > >> email > >> >>>> >> address. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > They were very good about contacting me quickly about this > >> >>>> >> > issue. > >> >>>> >> However > >> >>>> >> > they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! > >> >>>> >> > They > >> >>>> >> > had > >> >>>> NO > >> >>>> >> > proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the > >> child > >> >>>> was > >> >>>> >> over > >> >>>> >> > 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the > >> >>>> >> > account > >> >>>> >> > information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I > >> >>>> >> > was > >> >>>> >> > told. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control > >> >>>> >> > your > >> >>>> >> > kids > >> >>>> >> these > >> >>>> >> > days? > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > thanks > >> >>>> >> > marlon > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---- > >> >>>> >> > WISPA Wants You! 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