I'd advise against Yagi's as APs if you live anywhere there is even minor ICE buildup. The last thing you want is your network going down every time there is freezing rain, when the antennas are up a tower.
Also more likely the Crows will use your Yagi as their hangout sitting spot. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related......... I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <k...@wavelinc.com> wrote: > Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage > with > 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? > > Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload > on > the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM > To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol > SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related......... > > SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique > patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would > love > > to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... > 1) > They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar gain. > For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector > antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and > still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there > is > > a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the > ground > where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. > > Now.... everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else > in > > this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an > antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, > they really serve two different market segments. > > MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass > antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most > cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of > the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the > MTI > makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the > perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. > > In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like > them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on > beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy > to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find > Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other > good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I > dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also > comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. > (Thats > > not exact db spec) > > There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use > the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using > Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. > > When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to > colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. > With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity > colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), > fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal > seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation > between > each antenna. > > Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the > other > > native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made > that > > possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying > signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we > recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scottie Arnett" <sarn...@info-ed.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector > Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related......... > > > > To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I > > have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a > > 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have > > used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But > they > > > are expensive!!!! I am one to buy the close to what I think is best > > first > > and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better. > > > > Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I > > have used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS > > timing. > > On the Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles > > away and could have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is > > set on my Moto 900 AP's. > > > > If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things > > much cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be Canopy > > unless you expect less than 20 subs. > > > > Scott > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> > > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:02:10 -0400 > > > >>I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector > >>antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because > >>I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it > >>works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new > >>install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path > but, > > >>ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. > >> > >>I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap > SOB > > >>so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if > it's > > >>deserved. > >> > >>Thanks......... > >> > >>Bob- > >> > >>The cheap SOB > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > >>WISPA Wants You! 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