I'd argue that the Yagis would not have a narrow enough verticle beamwidth, and Downtilt would be hard to get right, and/or to much energy wasted getting directed in the wrong verticle directions, thus being less efficent than a panel. But I guess it would depend on the needs of where deploying.
Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related......... It's canopy - 8mhz channels. He is using ONE radio for all three antennas. Works like an omni and does a good job. On 5/3/10, Kurt Fankhauser <k...@wavelinc.com> wrote: > What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or > not either. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz > H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related......... > > I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is > doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts." > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <k...@wavelinc.com> wrote: > >> Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage > with >> 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? >> >> Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload >> on >> the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM >> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol >> SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related......... >> >> SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique >> patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would >> love >> >> to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... > 1) >> They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar >> gain. >> For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector >> antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and >> still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there >> is >> >> a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the > ground >> where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. >> >> Now.... everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else >> in >> >> this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an >> antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI >> antenna, >> they really serve two different market segments. >> >> MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass >> antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most >> cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of >> the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the > MTI >> makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the >> perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. >> >> In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like >> them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop >> on >> beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats >> easy >> to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find >> Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other >> good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. >> I >> dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, >> also >> comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. >> (Thats >> >> not exact db spec) >> >> There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use >> the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people >> using >> Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. >> >> When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to >> colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. >> With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity >> colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), >> fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little >> horizontal >> seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation > between >> each antenna. >> >> Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the >> other >> >> native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made >> that >> >> possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying >> signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we >> recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation >> also. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scottie Arnett" <sarn...@info-ed.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector >> Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related......... >> >> >> > To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. >> > I >> > have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a >> > 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have >> > used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But >> they >> >> > are expensive!!!! I am one to buy the close to what I think is best > first >> > and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better. >> > >> > Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz >> > I >> > have used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS > timing. >> > On the Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles >> > away and could have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is >> > set on my Moto 900 AP's. >> > >> > If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things >> > much cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be >> > Canopy >> > unless you expect less than 20 subs. >> > >> > Scott >> > >> > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> > From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> >> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >> > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:02:10 -0400 >> > >> >>I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector >> >>antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because >> >>I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if >> >>it >> >>works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new >> >>install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path >> but, >> >> >>ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. >> >> >> >>I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap >> SOB >> >> >>so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if >> it's >> >> >>deserved. >> >> >> >>Thanks......... >> >> >> >>Bob- >> >> >> >>The cheap SOB >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------ >> >>WISPA Wants You! 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