Thought BPL was dead

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

Or BPL.

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jeremie Chism <jchi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was thinking the same thing. Use a mini dslam on the free pairs to
> get Internet in the rooms. Ptp to the building and dsl to the customer.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 27, 2010, at 12:11 PM, "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-
> micro.com> wrote:
>
>> Then you could provide the access via dsl in the building.  That
>> would be
>> the logical route to go I think.
>>
>> -Richard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of finkle dinkle
>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:08 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>>
>> Justin, appreciate your suggestion.  I've been looking around and will
>> continue to.
>>
>> Josh, the gbit ptp will be done through fiber to the building, then
>> whoever in the building wants service.. will pay set up to get set up
>> with ethernet or fiber to my office.
>>
>> I know I could get enough business inside the building to cover half
>> the cost of everything because I'm pretty sure there is a company here
>> with quite a few T1's, overpaying and not getting what they deserve.
>> I've always been a proponent of maxing stuff out so I will be a great
>> benefit to the tenants.
>>
>> So if I'm able to set something up externally, I may be able to
>> actually break even and profit some,  I actually know I could profit
>> but I want this to be more of a service to the people who are unable
>> to get anything decent out here.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net> wrote:
>>>    Nice introduction to the WISPA community. Make fun of the name.
>>> I even
>>> recommended this person check out WISPA from the Ubiquity forums.
>>  Anyhow,
>>> welcome.  I would suggest reading through the archives for some good
>>> discussions on things.
>>>
>>>    Justin
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>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
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>>>
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>>>
>>> From: Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com>
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:28:35 -0700
>>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>>>
>>> My first recommendation would be to legally change your name from
>>> Finkle
>>> Dinkle to something that sounds a little more business-like. I'd
>>> recommend something like "Joe Smith" or "Bob Jones".
>>>
>>> finkle dinkle wrote:
>>>> So, I've got space in a building in So. Cal with a lot of neighbors
>>>> with crappy connections. In the beginning, I wanted to bring in a
>>>> gig
>>>> PTP from the datacenter 12 miles away... I'm not a salesman, I think
>>>> with the bandwidth I have available at the DC + the of the PTP, I
>>>> could've made everyone in the building happy, at least 20 tenants
>>>> if I
>>>> could convince them.. doubt I could.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I have potential access to the roof, I'd have to ask.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any laws if I want to sell service ?
>>>>
>>>> If I want to provide service to lets just say 50 clients (not in the
>>>> building but through wireless), are there devices that dont have to
>>>> rely on LOS ?
>>>>
>>>> I'm just trying to understand if this all went along well, how many
>>>> devices would I need to mount up on the roof to support 20-50
>>>> clients
>>>> externally with the devices and which devices..
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking to sell the bandwidth for a relatively low price,
>>>> undercut
>>>> wimax and not strictly looking for profit but looking to be the
>>>> point
>>>> guy for other tech operations for these potential clients..
>>>>
>>>> Also, to the people who have good access to bandwidth or even not..
>>>> how much are you looking at from all your cost to what you actually
>>>> charge (not including administrative) but lets assume your bandwidth
>>>> costs are 8k/month with the point to point to the datacenter +
>>>> 1000mbit commit. I know I could do better but what are we looking at
>>>> here, if the total cost to get the bandwidth, less the equipment
>>>> to my
>>>> office building at 8 bux a meg, how much should I be selling it ?
>>>> any
>>>> recommendations ?
>>>>
>>>> I do not want to be a company like towerstream where I sell 8 megs
>>>> for
>>>> 800/MRC, i'm looking to charge more like 25 bux per meg... Is my
>>>> model
>>>> right or wrong ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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