I'm using this money to buy hard assets -- e.g., land/tower/infrastructure - 
there are some radios / routers / backhauls in it, but that's probably less 
than 20% of the total amount

These also ARE NOT working capital loans, and I doubt it would cover a spectrum 
lease

The way it works is your bank puts in 50%, the CDC (via the SBA) puts in 40%, 
and you put in 10%

The bank takes the first lien and the SBA takes a subordinate position 

Say you take a loan for $100k

You'll put down $10k, the bank puts up $50k and the SBA puts up the remaining 
$40k

In the event of default, the bank liquidates your assets...as long as the 
assets can be liquidated for at least $50k, the bank is whole

We're using this money mostly for towers to reduce operating expenses (e.g., 
where I might pay $1,000 / month for tower rent, I now go spend $80k to go buy 
something...my monthly payment on that over a 10 year amortization comes out to 
about $750 / month, so I'm actually $250 / month ahead and now I can put 
whatever I want on it =)

Then, sometimes you strike gold and get an unexpected call from US Cellular 
who's willing to pay $1-2k / month to put their stuff on your tower =)

-Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 4:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies

Charles,

Thanks for the Info/Link.

In 2009, SBA had a great program based on a ARRA program, for a basic small 
business loan for any purpose.
They were increasing the SBA guarantee to 90% of loan value (instead of I 
think it used to be 80% or less).
That made it way easy to obtain a bank loan, with only 10% down, because it 
was 100% risk-free for the bank. But lke any government program lots of 
paperwork was required. Unforunteately, I did not learn about it until last 
few weeks of December 2009, and I was not able to compelte all teh 
requirements in time to submit an application.  In 2010, that program 
expired. :-(

The CDC program link you attached, inferred it could be 100% guaranteed by 
SBA. Wow.  But trying to find the catch, of what would disqualify someone?

For example.....

"The CDC/504 loan program is a long-term financing tool for economic 
development within a community. "

So what qualifies as Economic development? Does this mean that a plan need 
to be pre defined for loan proceeds to apply to equipment to be used only in 
the one specific Area/Community, that meets an specific economic profile? 
For example, If I cover 10 cities, that are of average national economic 
middle class or higher, and just need money to expand where ever orders may 
come in, would that be disqualified from this type loan program?

"The 504 Program provides small businesses requiring "brick and mortar" 
financing with long-term, fixed-rate financing to acquire major fixed assets 
for expansion "

So it would cover Radios, but not Spectrum leases?

" A Certified Development Company (CDC) is a private, nonprofit corporation 
set up to contribute to the economic development of its community. CDCs work 
with SBA and private sector lenders to provide financing to small 
businesses"

"The maximum SBA debenture is $2.0 million when meeting a public policy 
goal. "

Does that mean you must get an indorsement from the local government  for 
them to say that you are meeting a specific need?

>  a business must create or retain one job for every $65,000

Doesn't sound to hard to justify, for people already with a large number of 
employees.  But that could be a problem for a 2 man company. They'd have to 
match the equipment loan 30-50% with payroll, likely money they dont have in 
advance of increasingsales after equipment was deployed.  Wondering if 
they'd except "forcasted Jobs".

Although, "Loans cannot be made to businesses engaged in speculation" does 
not support that.




Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Wu" <c...@cticonnect.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies


> While leasing is a viable option, I would seriously take a look at the 
> programs the SBA has to offer
>
> I'm in the process of finalizing an SBA 504 loan for $400k
>
> You need to put down 10%, but if that's not a problem, it's perfect for 
> this space as it specifically deals with hard asset acquisition
>
> With the stimulus bill waiving the standard 2% SBA processing fee, it's a 
> pretty good deal
>
> All in, I'm looking at 1% for closing costs and a 10 year note at 4.43%
>
> Details here: 
> http://www.sba.gov/financialassistance/borrowers/guaranteed/CDC504lp/index.html
>
> -Charles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Joe Laura
> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:06 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies
>
> If you have a good business plan your probably better off dealing with a
> local bank IMO. If you cant convince the bank your business plan is good
> then something might be wrong with your business plan. We do out of pocket
> now but several years ago after showing the bank our business plan they 
> gave
> me whatever I wanted as long as I showed them my MRC. Joe Laura
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David" <ad...@speedyquick.net>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies
>
>
>> Both CTI and Boun at doubleradius can help get you with honest leasing
>> companies.
>>
>> David
>>
>
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