If you really want to get serious on 2.4 use one of these:

http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=66529&eventPage=1

which totally blow away anything else we've tried.

Tom S.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eje Gustafsson" <e...@wisp-router.com>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........


The metal cap adds a whooping 1.2dB really not worth bothering with IMO.
Only reason they provide it is because people where used to the Andrew dish
that basically requires it the Andrew dishs suffers greatly without the
metal cap.

For some time now the bigger Pac (Laird) grids all are shipping with a much
more heavy duty L bracket then the old ones.
I had a FCC certification lab test out one of the 24dB's about 2 years back
and according to them the unit did measure in very close to 24dB.

The linked feedhorn and grid is a Pac 5GHz grid so if used on 2.4GHz I'm
amazed that you get the gain out of the solution consider the feed is NOT
designed for 2.4GHz.

/ Eje

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

Oh I do not do ANY 2.4 ghz links other then APs for houses or small
groups of houses (IE Picos now). (ok I have 3 users left on 2.4) The
Pacs with the cheap metal clip on tip are CRAP. I can not express the
horribleness of those enough. The ones like I linked, are great, and
are on par with 2ft solid dish's (obviously not the same gain, but
they do not bounce in the wind or act funny or lose the tip and really
start going wonky) and the links stay with in 2db as the wind blows.
The others drop 10db or more in mild wind. I have been replacing the
feeds with the ones from that link and it makes all the difference.
The mount from the old one is the standard Pac mount that they use on
pretty much everything. This one, is the same but made of thicker
metal. Both work well, and the units are better with the new feeds.
Add a bullet and its a very nice link that works great. I have about a
dozen of the old ones left that will be replaced with NanoBridges as I
move everything over to AirMax.  Yup wasted time/money on the cheap
grid, now buying the better one.


On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer
<o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:
> Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig systems
> out here.
>
> I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality.
>
> I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a
> bit.....
>
> Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then
complain
> about the time you spend.
>
> My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have
over
> 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care of
> it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people!
>
> Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end.
>
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeromie Reeves" <jree...@18-30chat.net>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
>
>
> http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529
>
> Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the
> cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously
> poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same
> feeds as the linked one.
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com>
> wrote:
>> I've always hated the Pac grids.
>>
>> They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB
>> LESS
>> rssi than others I've used.
>>
>> I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this
>> week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a
comparable
>> product?
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
>>
>>
>> Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big
>> links. I use the Pac grids.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts."
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> wrote:
>>> Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if
>>> anything, they work about the same in the field on receive.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Baird
>>>> An NS2 is $80 list.
>>>>
>>>> I think most will agree it is superior, too.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>> continue that counts."
>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi<wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> $100
>>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that
>>>>> gain
>>>>> (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even
>>>>> less.
>>>>> Why buy old/used Wifi?
>>>>> Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be
>>>>> lucky
>>>>> to
>>>>> get $50, on the high side.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom DeReggi
>>>>> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc
>>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Sara Gray"<li...@jcwifi.com>
>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'"<wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tranzeo CPQ 19f
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.
>>>>>> Hoping
>>>>>> they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sara Gray
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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