Do what you're drawn to do if you can afford it, but don't let anyone take 
advantage of you that you're not willing to support.

Generally, I don't give price breaks that don't make fiscal sense, unless 
it's an organization that I'm compelled to help.  Like I don't give breaks 
to any religious organization but I support habitat for humanity any time I 
can.  Vet groups & community centers, I'll give them whatever they need. 
Chamber of Commerce we trade service for membership.

One thing that works well for us is that we trade for auto service, though 
we just bought brand new trucks with 125k mile warranties so they're gonna 
be out of luck for awhile.

If you remain true to yourself and your efforts and balance that with giving 
where appropriate, then there's no problem sleeping at night.  You have to 
be able to afford your business activities and an appropriate lifestyle for 
yourself.  Otherwise, what are you doing in business?  For the fun of it? 
There's value also.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MDK" <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line


>
> I dunno what it is about my personality, but I really, REALLY hate
> collecting money.    I hate asking for it.    I hate setting prices.
>
> I always look at it as if I were the customer, and what would things be 
> like
> if it were ME paying the bill.    Maybe that's the wrong attitude, because
> honestly, it tends to make me undercharge.    Objectively, you have to set 
> a
> 'what your time is worth' value and stick to it.    But when you do that,
> often you find that your bill is absurdly expensive.  like a $250 bill for
> fixing some guy's computer.   A computer that's not worth 300 bucks.
>
> I take those in from time to time, and work on them ONLY when I have 
> "free"
> time.   And the bill is small.
>
> Still, I think sometimes that's not quite right either, so how do you 
> choose
> to do what you do?   Conscience has to guide, but you also have to be 
> honest
> and you can't undercharge and stay in business, either.
>
> How do y'all do it?
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
> 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:52 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line
>
>> You beat me to it Mark. In the end, history will show that the "free
>> government money attitude" is what was at the root of our country's
>> downfall. Most  WISP's are built on independance. We should fight
>> against the use of our tax dollars for all these wasteful programs. I
>> think all other utilities should be made to stand on their own as
>> well. What better way to show that it works than by our own example?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:14 AM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote:
>>> If you did, how would you sleep at night, knowing you're ripping off
>>> money
>>> for nuttin?
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
>>> 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Glenn Kelley" <gl...@hostmedic.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:39 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line
>>>
>>>> That was my question.
>>>>
>>>> I would love to find a way to get $300K to build a number of towers
>>>> around - and then a few thousand per subscriber per year to give them
>>>> VOIP
>>>> and Internet...
>>>>
>>>> - but then again I guess we all would
>>>>
>>>> Something however for us to use perhaps as Fodder to show why we
>>>> should -
>>>> when we can service so many more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  WISPs get a share of the USF funds that will be redirected to
>>>>> broadband?
>>>>> Noodle me that...
>>>>
>>>>
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