Yes you can run a cable through the bottom of enclosure and to the antenna. Works fine. I've done it - think of it as two antenna connections that have no change of water entering because they are "inside". No need to even seal them. The ARC panels work very well. Shove a rocket in that enclosure and you will be happy with the results.
Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 ---------------------------------------- Return-Path: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> Received: from outboundmail.mvn.net (outboundmail.mvn.net [66.232.160.104]) by mail.brevardwireless.com with SMTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:15:21 -0400 Received: by outboundmail.mvn.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 6EDCBC7FB9; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:15:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-mvn_20090108.1 (2008-06-10) on outboundmail.mvn.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=8.0 tests=USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5-mvn_20090108.1 Received: from plesk.mvn.net (plesk-1.mvn.net [66.232.160.84]) by outboundmail.mvn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3991C8171 for <sc...@brevardwireless.com>; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:14:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 3251 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2010 11:14:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (HELO plesk.mvn.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jul 2010 11:14:41 -0500 Delivered-To: 24-wirel...@wispa.org Received: (qmail 2366 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2010 11:14:33 -0500 Received: from mx1.mvn.net (HELO junkmail.mvn.net) (66.232.160.16) by webpanel.mvn.net with SMTP; 30 Jul 2010 11:14:33 -0500 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1280506471-1750017f0001-RAC2qD Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.200.141]) by junkmail.mvn.net with ESMTP id WU5wao571ZfyhWYd for <wireless@wispa.org>; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:14:31 -0500 (CDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: fgoldst...@ionary.com X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 64.68.200.141 Received-SPF: softfail (junkmail.mvn.net: transitioning domain of ionary.com does not designate 64.68.200.141 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.68.200.141; envelope-from=fgoldst...@ionary.com; Received: from IonaryDuo.mailout.easydns.com (209-150-49-3.c3-0.nwt-ubr3.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.150.49.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AE1308F1 for <wireless@wispa.org>; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:14:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:14:25 -0400 To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> From: Fred Goldstein <fgoldst...@ionary.com> In-Reply-To: <4c52f6d5.2030...@tc3net.com> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [WISPA] MIMO 5.8 GHz panel antennas? 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X-BeenThere: wireless@wispa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> List-Id: WISPA General List <wireless.wispa.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless>, <mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless> List-Post: <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> List-Help: <mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless>, <mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Errors-To: wireless-boun...@wispa.org X-Rcpt-To: <sc...@brevardwireless.com> X-SmarterMail-Spam: Commtouch 0 [value: Unknown], SPF_Pass, DK_None, DKIM_None X-CTCH-RefId: str=0001.0A010204.4C52FAA9.0219,ss=1,fgs=0 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: -2 The trouble with the Powerbridge is that it has the radio built in, and is thus an Ethernet hop away from the switch (probably a Routerboard), and one more active device to manage. Also, since a Ubiquiti card drives the radio, it can only run in Airmax or 802.11 mode, not however the Routerboard might be able to drive it (for exmmple, MT's new nv2 mode). What I want is the Powerbridge's antenna by itself! That would be exactly what I'm looking for. ARC Wireless makes a "panel antenna for IES", but again that presumes a Routerboard-class radio built in. Would it work with just, uh, cable jumpers to an outboard radio? BTW I'm using RadioMobile to calculate paths, and while the one in question "works", it is not a perfect one; it shows some Fresnel zone interference along the way, since it's hilly terrain. I may have to raise or lower the antenna a foot or two to avoid nulls. At 7/30/2010 11:59 AM, you wrote: >Yea, it's wrong. Try something besides MCS14 or MCS15 on their >calculator, or a better link calculator. I've got NB22's with +25 >deployed at 10 miles. > >Regards >Michael Baird > > http://www.ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ > > > > Says that this would be a marginal signal at 10 miles. (16090 > meters) for the PowerBridge M5 link margin 14.4 > > > > Steve Barnes > > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:28 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MIMO 5.8 GHz panel antennas? > > > > They have a Powerbridge M5 that includes a 25 db MIMO panel. > > > > Regards > > Michael Baird > > > >> I wonder if any of you have experience with 5.8 GHz MIMO antennas. > >> I'm trying to design a point-to-point link, about 10 miles, that will > >> carry a high percentage of a whole network's backhaul. So I'd like it > >> to go at about 80 Mbps, MCS 12 in 20 MHz. > >> The UBNT SR71-15 card can plug into a Routerboard and thus feed two > >> antennas, or a dual-polarized antenna. I'd rather have one antenna > >> than two. I can find dual-feed 2' dishes, but they're on the large > >> side, with wind load and visibility issues. And I see a lot of > >> single-feed panels, which can handle 11a-type traffic. > >> > >> I can run Ethernet into an external radio that comes in a panel, but > >> that adds a hop and more complexity, and frankly most of the specs > >> don't match the SR71-15's. There will be at least three antennas at > >> each end, possibly four (backhaul plus local access). MiniPCI radios > >> in, say, an RB600 seem easier to deal with. > >> > >> But who makes a standalone 5.8 GHz dual-polarized panel, something the > >> 22-25 dB range (13-16")? UBNT makes MIMO sector antennas, and makes > >> panels with built-in radios, but it doesn't seem to have a PTP panel > >> antenna to mate with the SR71-15. ARC has one that works with its > >> built-in enclosure system; do I just leave the enclosure empty and > >> route the cables through it? (Seems hokey.) RADwin has one designed > >> for its own system; I don't know how well it would work otherwise and > >> it's way expensive. Suggestions? Thanks! > >> > >> -- > >> Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com > >> ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ > >> +1 617 795 2701 > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---------- > >> WISPA Wants You! 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