Yes, that was why I swapped in a NanoBridge since it has no cables. This was
a great "POP" Quiz (pun intended). I've seen or heard of a lot of issues but
the idea that something is broadcasting something strong enough to take out
a short hop really makes you wonder what it is. Right now the Rocket Dish is
my hero!
On a side note: I'm having trouble with a 2.4GHz AP on another tower that
points in the same direction as the industrial park that I suspect is the
culprit.
Thanks again to all that replied to my calls for help - especially Faisal.


On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Jim Patient <sa...@jeffcosoho.com> wrote:

>  I had an issue like this years ago that turned out to be my antenna cable
> picking up the signal from an FM transmitter.  My LMR cable just happened to
> be the perfect length for an FM dipole.  I Just had to make a little longer
> cable and it was fine.  Not sure if this was your issue but it is something
> to keep in mind.  Just cause it isn't your frequency, don't think it can't
> affect your equipment.
>
> No I wasn't smart enough to figure it out.   On about the 15th trip to the
> ground I was telling one of the radio station engineers and he asked me how
> long my antenna cable was.  He started giving me a class on harmonics and
> how they cross frequencies. I don't remember much of what he said but I Just
> got lucky that he was there or I would have still been changing dishes and
> radios;-)
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 8/6/2010 6:13 PM, RickG wrote:
>
> Yes, from the AP. The new Rocket Dish has a huge improvement on tx signal.
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Bob Moldashel <lakel...@gbcx.net> wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>>
>> Where were you scanning from when you got this?
>>
>> Scanned 10.10.31.1 - 10.10.31.55
>> 8/6/2010 7:22:04 AM
>>
>> IP                    Ping                  Hostname
>>
>> 10.10.31.1            2 ms                  N/A
>> 10.10.31.3            158 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.4            637 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.22           547 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.21           567 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.23           567 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.26           711 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.29           859 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.32           852 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.39           774 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.43           676 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.44           898 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.47           885 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.48           1289 ms               N/A
>> 10.10.31.27           704 ms                N/A
>> 10.10.31.25           1234 ms               N/A
>> 10.10.31.28           784 ms                N/A
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am assuming from the AP (or before it) because the 31.1 radio has 2 ms
>> ping time.
>> I wouldn't think one bad sub would be causing ping times like this across
>> the wireless network unless it was flooding the pipe.
>> We see these results (albeit different manufacturers equipment) when
>> clients have viruses or they tank the network when they are not throttled.
>> I just hope you are not seeing better results because "Mike the Porn King"
>> shut his laptop off and took it home at the end of his work week.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> -B-
>>
>>
>> RickG wrote:
>> > I thought of that too but no help. But I just finished installing a
>> > Rocket5 Dish and the problem is now FIXED! It must be interference for
>> > the local industrial park the link has to cross. Lookin much better
>> > (see attached).
>> >
>> > THANKS TO ALL FOR BEING MY SECOND SET OF EYES!
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mark Nash - Lists <markl...@uwol.net
>>  > <mailto:markl...@uwol.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     How about insufficient power to the radio?
>> >
>> >         ----- Original Message -----
>>  >         *From:* Mike <mailto:m...@aweiowa.com>
>> >         *To:* 'WISPA General List' <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>>  >         *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 11:47 AM
>> >         *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
>> >
>> >         Is one end lower than the other?  If so, there could be a duct
>> >         that is steering the signal or reflecting it away from the
>> >         intended path. Generally though, that would be reciprocal, but
>> >         not always. I had a tropospheric event this morning.  Such
>> >         events are way beyond the statistical norm for my area already
>> >         this year.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         Friendly Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >         *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> >         <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>> >         [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> >         <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *RickG
>> >         *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM
>> >         *To:* WISPA General List
>> >         *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         Weather has been hot & humid. You think I can get better info
>> >         with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti?
>> >
>> >         On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com
>>  >         <mailto:m...@aweiowa.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things.
>> >          I take your
>> >         alignment is right.  I would at this point suspect
>> >         interference.  What has
>> >         your weather been like?  I have seen episodes of tropospheric
>> >         ducting do
>> >         that.  I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several
>> >         days of some
>> >         serious ducting events.  It's usually when a cooler layer of
>> >         stale air is
>> >         trapped by warmer upper air.  Can you get your hands on an
>> >         analyzer?
>> >
>> >         Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little
>> >         tool for the
>> >         money.  It runs great on my netbook.  If I had a 5.8 version
>> >         I'd overnight
>> >         it to you.
>> >
>> >         Friendly Regards,
>> >
>> >         Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         -----Original Message-----
>> >         From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> >         <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>>  >         [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>  >         <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On
>> >         Behalf Of RickG
>> >
>> >         Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM
>> >         To: WISPA General List
>> >         Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
>> >
>> >         No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in
>> the
>> >         next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand
>> >         broke too.
>> >         Thanks!
>> >
>> >         On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com
>>  >         <mailto:m...@aweiowa.com>> wrote:
>> >         > The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to
>> >         the antenna.
>> >         > That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a
>> >         difficult
>> >         > position.  I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the
>> >         5.8.  It can
>> >         > tell you a lot for a simple device.
>> >         >
>> >         > Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have
>> >         turned up
>> >         the
>> >         > power?
>> >         >
>> >         > Did someone deploy Canopy close to you?
>> >         >
>> >         > I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke.
>> >         >
>> >         > -----Original Message-----
>> >         > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> >         <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>>  >         [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>  >         <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On
>> >         > Behalf Of RickG
>> >         > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM
>> >         > To: WISPA General List
>> >         > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
>> >         >
>> >         > Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower.
>> >         I have no
>> >         > tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a "spare"
>> >         Ethernet cable
>> >         > last night. No help.
>> >         >
>> >         > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com
>>  >         <mailto:m...@aweiowa.com>> wrote:
>> >         >> One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would
>> >         tell you a
>> >         > lot.
>> >         >> You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry
>> >         a USB
>> >         > extension
>> >         >> cable.
>> >         >>
>> >         >> If you are sending large packets to a local device with
>> >         ping, and seeing
>> >         >> loss, I would suspect the CAT5?  Spare one up the tower?
>> >          Can you pull a
>> >         > new
>> >         >> one?  Did you recrimp the ends?
>> >         >>
>> >         >>
>> >         >> -----Original Message-----
>> >         >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> >         <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>>  >         [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>  >         <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On
>> >         >> Behalf Of RickG
>> >         >> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM
>> >         >> To: WISPA General List
>> >         >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
>> >         >>
>> >         >> Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis
>> >         shows low
>> >         >> noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when
>> >         it was
>> >         >> installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough
>> >         to cause
>> >         >> the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP
>> >         now...will advise.
>> >         >>
>> >         >> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com
>>  >         <mailto:m...@aweiowa.com>> wrote:
>> >         >>> Send some really large packet count pings to the device.
>> >          Do you see any
>> >         >>> loss?
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>> There might be an interference source that cropped up that
>> >         the regular
>> >         >> radio
>> >         >>> scanners won't see.  Can you beg, borrow or make an
>> analyzer?
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>> Friendly Regards,
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>> Mike
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>
>> >         >
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