Or SICE AirGhz. It's a free iPhone app that uses the internal compass to point
you at the site, which you can add with lat/long. It also has the uptilt
measurement built in, so you can hold the phone up against the back of the
antenna, and it'll help you get the correct tilt. Pretty cool, but really only
works on the iPhone 4 -- the predecessor's compass wasn't accurate enough.
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Hogg
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
The iphone has an app called wifi align, and we have been using it with
pretty good results...can overlay your tower location via GPS onto your camera
view.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brad Belton <b...@belwave.com> wrote:
Yah…thought I was gonna see this a few days ago…<grin>
Brad
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
Mike, replying offlist...
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
wrote:
Where is this app? :-p
-----Mike HammettIntelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
On 10/19/2010 11:20 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
WispMon Pro has a phone app that will tell you distance and bearing to any
of the towers in your database from your current location and plot it for you
on a map. We are toying with making the app available for a small price to the
general public, but it will need some mods so you can enter your tower
locations manually and store them in a local file/db on the phone. Hit me
offlist if you are interested and we'll try to get it out quicker if there is a
big show of hands.
Regards,
Cameron
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
I've never put a dish up half together. I've always seen it done putting
everything together then hoisting it up.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
wrote:
Actually not true in many cases.
If the distance is really long beyond site, such as 20-30miles, I'd agree.
But if say LOS within 10 miles or so on a clear day, its pretty easy.
After our tech eye balls the alignment, I'll usually have the tech do a
fine align just in case we can improve it. BUt 9 out of 10 times, it was not
necessary and maybe we'll gain a half DB.
The secret to aligning dishes is to look through the feed hole before the
feed is screwed in. (for example PAC wireless parabolic dish). You then home in
on the far side area aiming for, positionioned in cetner of hole, and make sure
the Ring around the hole appears equal size all around to verify it is aligned.
Because the hole has metal around it that has DEPTH, maybe 1/4-1/2 inch, you
can see the depth of this inside surface all around the hole.
As matter of fact, if we dont get our link budget acheieve and we need to
trouble shoot why, we check cables first, because the odds of having a bad
cable is higher than the tech getting the first alignment attempt wrong.
Panels are harder to align, because looking from the side.
Sure it can be harder to align a big dish with radome that does not have a
removable feed.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Luthman
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
That's not realistically possible. You would have to be extraordinarily
lucky to align that first dish without having any measurements.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Nash <markl...@uwol.net> wrote:
(sent a message a few minutes ago but through strange indicators I think
it may not have sent out...sorry if it's a double-post)
I'm trying to have 1 crew and not do the 2nd trip to the first tower.
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Luthman
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both
radios being powered.
You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both install at the
same time and they should finish around the same time frame. Align before
coming down at all.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Greg Ihnen <os10ru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
It looks like for around $150 you could get binoculars with a built in
magnetic compass that you see through the binoculars. Could you use the
binoculars to find an object on the horizon on the right azimuth and then point
the dish there?
Greg
On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
Question: What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end of a
ptp without having a visual on the other side?
Details:
When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different
times.
The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the
other end.
We know how to get uptilt/downtilt/azimuth from Radio Mobile.
Uptilt/downtilt is easy to do with a simple gauge. Azimuth is a
different story. If you can see the site that you're aiming for, no big deal,
but what if you can't?
We have a number of backhaul upgrades to do in the next few months,
and we have alot of fog here in the mornings this time of year.
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