Can you imagine where we would be if the duopoly's were allowed free reign at the FCC and Congress. WISPA does keep them in check now and we plan to in the future. It used to be that they (RBOCs and Cable Companies) just wrote legislation and found a sponsor for it and Congress or the FCC just signed the dotted line. It is not that way anymore. We are the "people" and we are putting our foot down.
Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Stuart Pierce > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:50 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] new list > > Hear here, join up, it can not hurt. Our small niche industry needs a > collective voice much as other industries have and yes at this time > WISPA is it. Our industry drives the bigger boys and grows innovation > whether anyone wants to belive it or not. We keep them on their toes > and you have to think to yourself, would the big boys be where they are > as soon without us ? > > ( insert girls where needed for political correctness ) > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Rick Harnish" <rharn...@wispa.org> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:40:41 -0500 > > >We have tried to learn from others mistakes in the past and adjust our > >mailing list rules to our subscriber's requests as necessary. There > is > >unfortunately a segment of our industry that believes WISPA is a > vendor and > >we are out to sell memberships (get in their pocketbook). It almost > offends > >me in a way as I look at all of the volunteer efforts from across the > >country that has gone into building our trade association. The way I > look > >at it, WISPA is not selling memberships; it is seeking support for all > of > >the hard work and legal expenses that are incurred on behalf of the > >industry. Much as you support your local church, Elks lodge or any > other > >charitable organization. The difference being, that most of the > >accomplishments of WISPA are still accomplished by volunteer efforts > with > >the exception of legal and administrative functions such as my > position, > >hosting the webpages and accounting functions. > > > > > > > >I'm a realist and I know that we will never convince every operator of > that. > >However, I will continue to work diligently to develop programs, > discounts, > >marketing ideas and other things that potential members will see as > tangible > >benefits above and beyond the intangible lobbying and educational work > that > >we already do. To all those that support WISPA....Thank you very > much! Our > >voice is getting louder and more meaningful with every new member that > joins > >our efforts. Join WISPA <http://join.wispa.org/> As a team, we can > >accomplish much, as individuals, we might as well through the towel > in. > > > > > > > >Respectfully, > > > > > > > >Rick Harnish > > > >Executive Director > > > >WISPA > > > >260-307-4000 cell > > > >866-317-2851 WISPA Office > > > >Skype: rick.harnish. > > > >rharn...@wispa.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > > >> Behalf Of Stuart Pierce > > > >> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:26 PM > > > >> To: WISPA General List > > > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] new list > > > >> > > > >> LOL, funny how my history teacher was right about his saying, > "history > > > >> repeats itself". > > > >> > > > >> I remember being on the isp-wireless list and getting emailed about > one > > > >> sentence responses and emailed everyone I was done. So Mike started > up > > > >> the Part-15 lists. > > > >> > > > >> Then it went from there to WISPA. > > > >> > > > >> Then splintered to AFMUG and Butch's Mikrotik list. > > > >> > > > >> Now we may be back to WISPA and the new wug.cc , although I do > believe > > > >> in neutrality, but no hard core bashing. Be a little mature ( > although > > > >> it's hard to say what age this begins ) about posts and put some > > > >> forethought in responses. > > > >> > > > >> Oh I almost forgot wisp-equipment, Judd's list. > > > >> > > > >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > > >> From: support <supp...@nitline.com> > > > >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > > > >> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:52 -0600 > > > >> > > > >> >I don't see the list as a replacement but 1 more good tool in the > tool > > > >> box > > > >> >think its more to replace AFMUG we are all getting sick of chuck > > > >> getting > > > >> >angry > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >On 1/24/2011 12:11 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > > > >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > >> >> Hash: SHA1 > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Um.... people bash WISPA on this list occasionally. It's usually > not > > > >> >> warranted. There are a few trolls that like to make trouble. Why > do > > > >> you > > > >> >> feel that we can't bash WISPA on this list? If there are > legitimate > > > >> >> concerns with the organization, and one feels they are a threat > to > > > >> the > > > >> >> industry, then voice them. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Also going on a list and complaining usually doesn't get anything > > > >> done. > > > >> >> It just wastes peoples time and bandwidth. If someone has > > > >> constructive > > > >> >> criticism, and a well reasoned argument/position, that will get > > > >> >> something done. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> I've subscribed to the WUG list. Hopefully it will be interesting > > > >> and > > > >> >> not a waste of time, however I will probably start various new > > > >> threads > > > >> >> on the WISPA list, as it has served my and many others needs > quite > > > >> well. > > > >> >> I've been on the list since 2008 and been very happy with it. > > > >> Numerous > > > >> >> products/services/organizations have been praised when necessary, > > > >> and > > > >> >> called out when necessary. So I'm not quite sure the purpose of > the > > > >> WUG > > > >> >> list. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> We will see what the WUG list does. My initial feelings, is that > it > > > >> will > > > >> >> be a fringe list that ends up doing a lot of harm to the > industry. > > > >> >> Journalists will see lots of trolling and pick that out as the > face > > > >> of > > > >> >> the industry, because it makes better material for the > > > >> sensationalist > > > >> >> media. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> I realize that as business owners, we have very strong opinions > and > > > >> >> value our independence and rights. However we must also keep in > mind > > > >> >> that we as an industry are under attack on a continuous basis. > WISPA > > > >> has > > > >> >> provided a focal point for us to coalesce around as an industry. > > > >> They > > > >> >> have continuously shown a deep understanding of how to keep the > > > >> industry > > > >> >> growing. They have produced a number of products (3.65 regs, > > > >> >> whitespaces, dfrs etc.) These end products take substantial > amounts > > > >> of > > > >> >> time and effort to produce. They have seen how the sausage is > made, > > > >> and > > > >> >> not been afraid to get their hands dirty. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> I hope to join WISPA in the near future and contribute my > support. > > > >> I've > > > >> >> been slowly ramping up my WISP and preparing to roll out a broad > > > >> beta. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> I should get back to that now, have a demo due by the end of the > > > >> week.... > > > >> >> > > > >> >> On 01/24/2011 09:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > > >> >>> To be entirely neutral. We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, > for > > > >> example. > > > >> >>> We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA. Probably > > > >> not the > > > >> >>> best example, but this way we are entirely free to do what we > want. > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> Josh Luthman > > > >> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > > > >> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > >> >>> 1100 Wayne St > > > >> >>> Suite 1337 > > > >> >>> Troy, OH 45373 > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnes<st...@pcswin.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>>> Not sure of the reason for this Post here. Isn't the > > > >> wireless@wispa.org a > > > >> >>>> free non-vendor specific list? Is this a post to pull users > from > > > >> WISPA? > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> Steve Barnes > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >> >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- > > > >> boun...@wispa.org] On > > > >> >>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson > > > >> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM > > > >> >>>> To: WISPA General List > > > >> >>>> Subject: [WISPA] new list > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> Hi, > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new > mailing > > > >> list has > > > >> >>>> been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% > free, > > > >> and is not > > > >> >>>> tied to any product or service being sold. It is hosted on a > free > > > >> server, > > > >> >>>> with free bandwidth and free administration. No fees or vendor > > > >> sponsorship > > > >> >>>> will ever be asked by this new list. > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users- > > > >> requ...@wug.cc with > > > >> >>>> "subscribe" in the subject field. > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such > as > > > >> Motorola, > > > >> >>>> Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor > neutral > > > >> list that > > > >> >>>> allows discussion of any product (whether good or bad) so that > we > > > >> can all > > > >> >>>> learn. > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> __________________________________ > > > >> >>>> Wireless Users Group us...@wug.cc > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > >> -------------- > > > >> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > >> >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > >> -------------- > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > >> >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > >> -------------- > > > >> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > >> >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > >> -------------- > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > >> >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > >> ------------- > > > >> >>> WISPA Wants You! 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