Around here T1's are considered slow. And bonding them is far to expensive. 
Every customer we have switched over from a CLEC wants to dump their T1 for 
something faster. Honestly on our VoIP customers if we can't service them they 
get Comcast with our VOIP service. I think the T1 is the biggest thing hurting 
the clec's. Its hard for them to compete with comcast fiber or me  I worked for 
two and actually had one just recently offer me a large salary to come work for 
them. 

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On Feb 12, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

> T1 is far from legacy.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:17 AM, St. Louis Broadband <li...@stlbroadband.com> 
> wrote:
> How are they the only source for VoIP?  T1 is now legacy, so I doubt they 
> will be selling much of that in the future.
> 
>  
> 
> Victoria Proffer - President/CEO
> 
> www.ShowMeBroadband.com
> 
> www.StLouisBroadband.com
> 
> www.FarmingtonForum.com
> 
>  
> 
> 314-974-5600
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:11 AM
> 
> 
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world
>  
> 
> You wouldn't want to disband CLECs.  They're the ones that usually "deliver" 
> T1 and T3 circuits (though people shouldn't be purchasing their service via 
> T1 or T3) and the only source for VoIP access.
> 
> 
>  
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>  
> 
> On 2/12/2011 7:41 AM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:
> 
> Stuart,
> 
> This is not ARRA monies, i.e., tax dollars.  This is USF funds that have 
> already been collected.
> 
> This is also the same network plan that my company developed and handed to 
> U.S. CTO Aneesh Chopra.  Our broadband stimulus plan was for a shared 
> network, with Public Safety, mobile and fixed wireless.  It was also a 
> ‘community based’ so that the local communities shared in the profits … 
> haven’t seen that part yet …
> 
> I think this is the new plan and to disband the CLEC … breaking up the 
> monopoly!  At least this is what I am hoping for.
> 
> Victoria Proffer - President/CEO
> 
> www.ShowMeBroadband.com
> 
> www.StLouisBroadband.com
> 
> www.FarmingtonForum.com
> 
> 314-974-5600
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:28 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world
> 
> Does everyone forget where this stimulus money comes from ( or will ) or what 
> ? This stimulus money is turning everyone into Ostriches to the problems it 
> brings now and the future.
> 
> Most everyone I know in this industry for years has built out with their own 
> capabilities. Can more money help build out more areas quicker ? Well hades 
> yea !
> 
> This money isn't going back to the people, it's a loan believe it or not. 
> They need to take all of this supposedly extra money and give it directly 
> back to the people.
> 
> If they want to promote broadband, then maybe a coupon idea, for verification 
> and accountability only, is a good idea. The coupon is worth what, $31, based 
> on the population of the USA of 315 million and the recent bandied about $10 
> million dollar figure.
> 
> Best idea to promote broadband is not to tax it and make anything remotely 
> associated with broadband, even a Wii, 100% deductible.
> 
> Bottom line, if you've got this surplus of money in the government and want 
> to stimulate the economy ( broadband or not ), give it back to the people.
> 
> With that, Go Buckeyes !!
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> 
> From: Drew Lentz <d...@drewlentz.com>
> 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> 
> Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:18:15 -0600
> 
> >Jack, this line stood out to me:
> 
> >"Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act together "
> 
> > 
> 
> >You know, I might be in the minority here, but I see great things with this.
> 
> >The fact that there is more stimulus money coming out to support building a
> 
> >wireless infrastructure in this country, to me, is phenomenal. By supporting
> 
> >groups like WISPA and making sure your voice is heard at the congressional
> 
> >level, maybe some of the money can make it into the right hands to tie
> 
> >together networks, allowing existing provides to increase build-out, and
> 
> >help this country move forward. If we don't band together to shed light on
> 
> >the subject of what can be done with the existing providers, you're right,
> 
> >money will go to new guys that don't have an existing business in more rural
> 
> >locations, who need to keep it local. The more we get the word out that we
> 
> >are present, available, and ready and willing to work with the powers that
> 
> >be (whether it be the FCC, the congress men and women, or their designated
> 
> >contractors), the better our voice sounds. Don't take this as a WISPA
> 
> >commercial .. take it as a big bright shining sign that we need to now, more
> 
> >than ever, collect ourselves and get our voice loud and proud where it
> 
> >matters. If its done right, we will all benefit from it. Maybe I am giving
> 
> >too much credit to our government, but maybe we all need to remember that
> 
> >change starts with every single one of us. If we all take one step forward
> 
> >towards fixing this instead of complaining about it, that's quite a few
> 
> >steps.
> 
> > 
> 
> >-drew
> 
> > 
> 
> >On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> >> I have written in a more eloquent way to various of my congresspeople,
> 
> >> however, this was more of a quick rant on a yahoo message board.  I am a
> 
> >> true believer in democracy, capitalism, and the free market.  I very
> 
> >> strongly don't believe in socialism.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> I don't feel that the majority of those at the wheel at the moment have a
> 
> >> clue as to what they are doing.    They're more after sound bites and 
> >> speech
> 
> >> fodder.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> wispa is a good beginning for our industry, but there are some steps that
> 
> >> would really help make some changes and mature this industry..  I'll try to
> 
> >> put some of those down and post them up early next week.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Marco
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>>  Marco,
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Your letter makes some great points but in somewhat insulting way that may
> 
> >>> cause it to just be tossed aside rather than taken seriously. If you would
> 
> >>> like me to re-write a future letter for you so that it makes it's points 
> >>> in
> 
> >>> a more considerate way, I'll be happy to help you with that.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> I think this article shows just how far WISPs (and WISPA) need to go to
> 
> >>> make elected officials aware that "all wireless isn't mobile". They seem
> 
> >>> unaware that WISPs supply FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND and that mobile 
> >>> broadband
> 
> >>> is (like Matt Larsen says) "toy broadband".
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act together and
> 
> >>> get our message about the benefits of FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND out to
> 
> >>> Congress?
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> jack
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> On 2/10/2011 2:27 PM, Marco Coelho wrote:
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Here's some more:
> 
> >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110210/ap_on_re_us/us_obama
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> my response:
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Dear Mr. President,
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> I have built, own, and operate an Internet Service Provider (ISP) company.
> 
> >>> I have done this with my OWN money, blood, sweat, and tears for over 13
> 
> >>> years. We presently cover 5000 square miles of previously unsupported 
> >>> areas.
> 
> >>> So far your broadband stimulus moneys' have done nothing for my customers
> 
> >>> but cause interference from wanabe ISPs using the peoples money to mess
> 
> >>> things up.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Sure, most of them will be out of business in a couple of years, but it's
> 
> >>> still adds more work for those who have to live through it. We may even do
> 
> >>> pretty well buying up all that equipment that was purchased with the 
> >>> peoples
> 
> >>> monies and squandered.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Leave business to the business people. We don't want your money, it came
> 
> >>> with too many strings attached. Rather than sell radio spectrum, also an
> 
> >>> asset of the people, you should designate more of it for the unlicensed
> 
> >>> bands that us WISPs use.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Marco Coelho
> 
> >>> President,
> 
> >>> Argon Technologies Inc.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> --
> 
> >>> Marco C. Coelho
> 
> >>> Argon Technologies Inc.
> 
> >>> POB 875
> 
> >>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
> 
> >>> 903-455-5036
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> 
> 
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> >>> 
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> >>> --
> 
> >>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> 
> >>> Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks"
> 
> >>> Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 
> >>> 1993www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com
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> 
> >> Argon Technologies Inc.
> 
> >> POB 875
> 
> >> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
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