So meeting the switch at each rate center is free, but meeting at the tandem costs money?

I had always thought that you built to a tandem for $X and if your traffic with a given switch exceeded a certain amount, you then connected to that tandem and then each switch at $X*Y where Y is the number of switches you connect to.

Then again, I'm not a CLEC.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 2/17/2012 10:21 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 2/17/2012 10:59 AM, John Scrivener wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

    They just resell a national provider. Rarely do these national
    providers cover areas where broadband is not already available.

 Actually Net Sapiens and Ipifony are not in the business of "reselling a national provider". They sell hardware and managed services for getting into the VoIP business. That is not to say they would not help you connect with a national provider if that is the path that one chose to get there. That is one piece of a large puzzle they help you complete. I have talked to both companies extensively. What I did not know was that there is more to being a facilities based ETC than buying the gear that NetSapiens and Ipifony sell. I wish those companies would come on here and discuss this with you guys more but I know for a fact they are more than just resellers of national player services as Mike has said here.
Scriv

Those are equipment vendors, not resellers. But at least from their web site descriptions of the product, they don't talk about SS7 connectivity and IMTs, which are the heart of "Class 4" operation, and needed to be a CLEC. So if you're in a place that has CLECs (Level 3, Widnstream/Paetec, Earthlink, and who ever else hasn't been rolled up yet) selling SIP trunks of PRIs, great. But if you're in the rural areas where broadband=WISP and backhaul to a NAP = $$$$$, then you may need to create your own CLEC switching.

FWIW, current rules (this is open in the pending FNPRM, Comments due next Friday) are that, in general, local trunks are exchanged with ILECs at no charge, provided you meet them inside any of their central offices (via collocation, mid-span fiber meet, or by paying them for the entrance facility). But toll (inter-LATA) traffic arrives on trunks into the regional access tandem, and you usually have to pay for that mileage at fairly high (switched access transport) rates. Fortuantely, most trunks are local.

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 Fred Goldstein    k1io   fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
 ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/
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