The problem with us isn't the party who initiated the complaint. The
upstream providers are getting more and pushy that we need to give them (the
backbone provider) a resolution.  If not they say it violates the Terms of
Service.  Cogent is the worst about this.  We have actually had them turn us
off because we did not answer complaints.

Justin

From:  Jim Patient <jpati...@linktechs.net>
Reply-To:  WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Date:  Monday, June 3, 2013 4:34 PM
To:  WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

> I just respond to them and tell them we would be happy to investigate the
> alleged infringement however, there will be a cost incurred for investigation.
> Pricing for investigating this can be found on http://wifimw.com/civil.asp
> I have never had any of them respond to it in over 3 years.  I guess if any of
> them do, I¹ll cross that bridge when it happens.  I think most of it is
> vaporware.
>  
> Has anyone out here ever actually had a law suit or cops show up over one of
> these? 
>  
> Jim
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Hass, Douglas A.
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 3:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents
>  
> Jim,
>  
> Your policy says that it applies to subpoenas, but what about service of DMCA
> notices without a subpoena attached (such as where a subpoena comes later, or
> not at all)?  
>  
> Doug
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Jim Patient
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 3:02 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents
>  
> Nope
>  
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Chuck Hogg
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 2:49 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents
>  
> 
> Curious, has anyone paid yet?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jim Patient <jpati...@linktechs.net> wrote:
> 
> You can charge them to investigate these complaints.  We reply to the letters
> pointing them to our website with pricing for us to investigate.  So far none
> of them have elected to pay us to find the offender.   Not like it¹s hard for
> us because all of our users have public IPs.
>  
> http://wifimw.com/civil.asp
>  
>  
> Jim
>  
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of ~NGL~
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 2:00 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents
> 
>  
> 
> I am trying to stop or hinder the copyright infringement problem.
> 
> Anyone have a good answer?
> 
> NGL
>> 
>> From: Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@performantnetworks.com>
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 11:46 AM
>> 
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents -> Steve
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I agree with Steve. There are tons of ways to obfuscate torrent traffic, and
>> VPN/proxy services are gaining in popularity, which makes the traffic
>> encrypted.
>> -- 
>>> 
>>> Josh Reynolds
>>> 
>>> WISP Engineering Liaison
>>> 
>>> Performant Networks
>>> 
>>> phone (305) 968-6351 <tel:%28305%29%20968-6351>
>>> 
>>> email j...@performantnetworks.com
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