I'm going to step in here and say my piece, since I believe I'm allowed to now 
since the company and product is defunct.

Accedian upper management is delusional, and makes decisions like a bipolar 
woman during menopause.

Scott Sumner is amazing at marketing, is smart, and is very personable. I think 
he did the best he could with the resources he had in creating Performant. They 
did well establishing the brand, and made decent progress getting into the WISP 
market.

I think he was fighting a very tough uphill battle though.

They were taking a product which was based on standards not familiar to the 
wisp market, making it proprietary, and selling it for a very high price (for 
wisps). They had plans to make several different hardware versions as well, 
including a smaller/cheaper line, as well as a larger port count product. Scott 
wasn't given the proper resources to do this.

Accedian believed they were going to be the next Ubiquiti somehow -- that their 
product was going to sell like hotcakes to every Joe Blow. I tried to talk them 
into lowering the price point, but it wasn't possible with the hardware 
design... Very well made, Japanese caps, good FPGAs, great board design, nebs3 
compliant... But the majority of the wisp market doesn't care about those 
things... They just want something cheap that works.

Unfortunately, anything G8032v2 based is very limiting. I realized this the 
first time I tried to overlay ospf on top of a rflo ring as part as a use case 
for a customer. The interface creation for the routers was absolutely insane, 
and not efficient in any way. The design is very limiting. We have two rings 
here at SPITwSPOTS, and I spent roughly 20 hours this weekend fighting design 
issues to do simple things that would be easy on any other type of design 
topology.

I begged them over a year ago to move to what I called RFLOv2, which I 
suggested should be built on top of SPB, with the same type of wireless link 
monitoring. This is totally possible, and would have been an amazing product. 
Traditional mesh design would have worked.The chips were available in quantity 
even then, but upper management didn't see my vision.

A week after I started at performant, I got a phone call from Jason L and 
Robert Pera. I was to take over as the FedEx Forum "guy" and design the network 
there. I passed, because I had just taken the job with performant, and didn't 
want to be the guy that company hops (performant also was paying me VERY 
well...). I declined the offer, Greg Sowell took it, and the rest is history.

I was told performant had 3 years to turn a profit. About 5 months into working 
there, i was axed along with 147 employees of accedian by their HR manager. I 
was told performant was untouchable by accedian HR, and that the performant 
core team was going to be left alone while it grew. They lied. A few months 
later, our marketing guy from Motorola  / Cambium was fired. He had no idea it 
was coming. I don't know if accedian did that to anybody else on the performant 
side, but I know Scott was very unhappy about those decisions. He was lied to 
as well I think.

So anyway, in short, their patents are amazing. The hardware is great. The 
software, for us, has been very buggy. We had less issues with STP, and less 
downtime.

I guess we'll be moving to MPLS. :)

I think they just believed the product would sell like hotcakes, but they 
really don't understand the wisp market very well.

/endrant

I wish the people at performant the best. Very talented. Accedian? They can 
take a hike.

On June 30, 2014 6:44:24 AM AKDT, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> 
wrote:
>On June 17th.
>On Jun 30, 2014 8:40 AM, "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
>>   When?
>>
>>
>>
>>  Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>   From: Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Date: Monday, June 30, 2014 at 10:07 AM
>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Cc: "a...@afmug.com" <a...@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: End of Life Performant R-Flo Prodcust Line
>>
>>   That's what I'm confused about.
>> I just did a demo with them and they assured me the product wasn't
>going
>> anywhere...
>> On Jun 30, 2014 8:05 AM, "Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>> Wait.... what product is available then?
>>> I thought it was just getting moved under the Accedian name?
>>>
>>> On 6/30/14, 8:32 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>> > FYI
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Gino A. Villarini
>>> > President
>>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> > www.aeronetpr.com
>>> > @aeronetpr
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Larry Asten <las...@accedian.com
><mailto:las...@accedian.com>>
>>> > Date: Sunday, June 29, 2014 at 10:22 PM
>>> > To: Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
>>> > Cc: Luis Cintron <lcint...@aeronetpr.com
>>> > <mailto:lcint...@aeronetpr.com>>, Scott Sumner
><ssum...@accedian.com
>>> > <mailto:ssum...@accedian.com>>, "gsp...@accedian.com
>>> > <mailto:gsp...@accedian.com>" <gsp...@accedian.com
>>> > <mailto:gsp...@accedian.com>>, Douglas Smidl <dsm...@accedian.com
>>> > <mailto:dsm...@accedian.com>>, Tom Gill <tg...@accedian.com
>>> > <mailto:tg...@accedian.com>>, Ken Gold <kg...@accedian.com
>>> > <mailto:kg...@accedian.com>>
>>> > Subject: Enmd of Life Performant R-Flo Prodcust Line
>>> >
>>> > Gino,
>>> >
>>> > Good morning.
>>> >
>>> > I want to advise you , that  the Performant R-Flo product line has
>been
>>> > discontinued effective 7-1-2014.
>>> >
>>> > Please review Product End of Life Notice EOLN20140626 , which is
>>> > attached , for details on last buy and other key elements of the
>>> > discontinuation.
>>> >
>>> > I also attached the discontinuation notice.
>>> >
>>> > Tom and I will remain your account team , moving forward.
>>> >
>>> > Let me know Gino if I can answer any questions – gracias.
>>> >
>>> > My regards.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Larry Asten
>>> >
>>> > Regional Sales Director
>>> >
>>> > Southeastern & Caribbean Region
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > las...@accedian.com <mailto:las...@accedian.com>
>>> >
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