Pain in the butt.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Kameron Blomquist < kame...@sightlinewireless.com> wrote: > Chris Fabian, we had that happen as well and have to modify the file > because if we added Burst speeds it would pull from the min speed vs max. =/ > > > > *Kameron B.* > *SightLine Wireless* > *(503) 967-7222 <%28503%29%20967-7222>* > *www.sightlinewireless.com <http://www.sightlinewireless.com>* > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Kameron Blomquist < > kame...@sightlinewireless.com> wrote: > >> The deployment data is always wrong, you cant just submit that. It just >> goes off of subscriber info. >> >> We got the deployment data from Towercoverage and use the subscriber data >> from PC. >> >> >> >> *Kameron B.* >> *SightLine Wireless* >> *(503) 967-7222 <%28503%29%20967-7222>* >> *www.sightlinewireless.com <http://www.sightlinewireless.com>* >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Charles Wu <cwu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> While I can’t speak directly for PowerCode, I suspect that if you got an >>> unsolicited voicemail from them that they probably have someone monitoring >>> this list. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Charles >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On >>> Behalf Of *Chris Fabien >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:38 AM >>> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate >>> >>> >>> >>> FYI guys I got a voicemail at my office yesterday afternoon from >>> powercode confirming they are aware of this issue. >>> >>> I have not spoken to them yet and I am not sure if they are aware this >>> is a time critical issue for some WISP who may have CAF funding becoming >>> available for someone to overbuild them due to faulty 477 data. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Adair Winter < >>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: >>> >>> I can't tell that anything like that is happening with the plans. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I also noticed strange numbers in the speed plans.... sometimes it would >>> line up with a plan that we offered sometimes it would seem to pick a down >>> from one plan and an upload that from a different plan. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Adair Winter < >>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: >>> >>> That's interesting. so some lines show nothing for and down/up speed. >>> others shows some plan that we have. Is powercode just picking the user >>> with the highest plan for the block and displaying that? hmm >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Deployment is your service offerings to the blocks. Basically, what >>> blocks can you cover at what speeds and with what technology. Subscription >>> counts actual subscribers in tracts. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well then. That sucks. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:11:11 PM >>> >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate >>> >>> Mike, I should have at least several hundred that actually have >>> subscribers that powercode should have included in the CSV. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> How many blocks are your subscribers in? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:06:48 PM >>> >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate >>> >>> Powercode does not have a real coverage map. They do generate the >>> deployment .csv file, based upon the assumption of reporting any block in >>> which you have a customer as being deployed. That approach will definitely >>> generate incomplete results, but I'm seeing a way way worse problem. >>> Powercode was giving us 22 blocks reported on the deployment CSV, when I >>> did it by hand in GIS software, I have 841 blocks. Something seems to be >>> very broken. I just finished the analysis right now, I will be emailing >>> them shortly. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you guys are blindly dumping your Powercode deployment CSV into 477, >>> you really should check the data yourself somehow. I have talked to one >>> other powercode user who was seeing this problem. He actually had a mapping >>> background and helped me do the analysis in MapInfo. >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Fabien >>> >>> LakeNet LLC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Does PowerCode have any way to calculate the deployment file? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net> >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:52:10 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate >>> >>> >>> >>> *shrug* >>> >>> When I do the export from powercode it dumps two .csv files. >>> DeploymentData.csv and SubscriptionData.csv. Both of which I just load in >>> to the fcc 477 site. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Does Powercode do deployment or only subscriber? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:46:44 AM >>> *Subject: *[WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate >>> >>> Working on our 477, mapped the deployment data from powercode in our GIS >>> software, we found it was grossly inaccurate, probably only has 10% of the >>> blocks in the file compared to ones where we have customers. Has anyone >>> else noticed this? >>> >>> >>> >>> We were previously not mapping the output and just blindly submitting >>> it.... bad idea... we were grossly under reporting our coverage. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Adair Winter >>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner >>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 >>> C: 806.231.7180 >>> http://www.amarillowireless.net >>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Adair Winter >>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner >>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 >>> C: 806.231.7180 >>> http://www.amarillowireless.net >>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Adair Winter >>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner >>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 >>> C: 806.231.7180 >>> http://www.amarillowireless.net >>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >> >
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