Pain in the butt.


On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Kameron Blomquist <
kame...@sightlinewireless.com> wrote:

> Chris Fabian, we had that happen as well and have to modify the file
> because if we added Burst speeds it would pull from the min speed vs max. =/
>
>
>
> *Kameron B.*
> *SightLine Wireless*
> *(503) 967-7222 <%28503%29%20967-7222>*
> *www.sightlinewireless.com <http://www.sightlinewireless.com>*
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Kameron Blomquist <
> kame...@sightlinewireless.com> wrote:
>
>> The deployment data is always wrong, you cant just submit that. It just
>> goes off of subscriber info.
>>
>> We got the deployment data from Towercoverage and use the subscriber data
>> from PC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Kameron B.*
>> *SightLine Wireless*
>> *(503) 967-7222 <%28503%29%20967-7222>*
>> *www.sightlinewireless.com <http://www.sightlinewireless.com>*
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Charles Wu <cwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> While I can’t speak directly for PowerCode, I suspect that if you got an
>>> unsolicited voicemail from them that they probably have someone monitoring
>>> this list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Charles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Chris Fabien
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:38 AM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI guys I got a voicemail at my office yesterday afternoon from
>>> powercode confirming they are aware of this issue.
>>>
>>> I have not spoken to them yet and I am not sure if they are aware this
>>> is a time critical issue for some WISP who may have CAF funding becoming
>>> available for someone to overbuild them due to faulty 477 data.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Adair Winter <
>>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't tell that anything like that is happening with the plans.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I also noticed strange numbers in the speed plans.... sometimes it would
>>> line up with a plan that we offered sometimes it would seem to pick a down
>>> from one plan and an upload that from a different plan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Adair Winter <
>>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's interesting. so some lines show nothing for and down/up speed.
>>>  others shows some plan that we have. Is powercode just picking the user
>>> with the highest plan for the block and displaying that? hmm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Deployment is your service offerings to the blocks. Basically, what
>>> blocks can you cover at what speeds and with what technology. Subscription
>>> counts actual subscribers in tracts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well then. That sucks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>>
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:11:11 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate
>>>
>>> Mike, I should have at least several hundred that actually have
>>> subscribers that powercode should have included in the CSV.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> How many blocks are your subscribers in?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>>
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:06:48 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate
>>>
>>> Powercode does not have a real coverage map. They do generate the
>>> deployment .csv file, based upon the assumption of reporting any block in
>>> which you have a customer as being deployed. That approach will definitely
>>> generate incomplete results, but I'm seeing a way way worse problem.
>>> Powercode was giving us 22 blocks reported on the deployment CSV, when I
>>> did it by hand in GIS software, I have 841 blocks. Something seems to be
>>> very broken. I just finished the analysis right now, I will be emailing
>>> them shortly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you guys are blindly dumping your Powercode deployment CSV into 477,
>>> you really should check the data yourself somehow. I have talked to one
>>> other powercode user who was seeing this problem. He actually had a mapping
>>> background and helped me do the analysis in MapInfo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Fabien
>>>
>>> LakeNet LLC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does PowerCode have any way to calculate the deployment file?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>>
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:52:10 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *shrug*
>>>
>>> When I do the export from powercode it dumps two .csv files.
>>> DeploymentData.csv and SubscriptionData.csv. Both of which I just load in
>>> to the fcc 477 site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does Powercode do deployment or only subscriber?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>>
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:46:44 AM
>>> *Subject: *[WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate
>>>
>>> Working on our 477, mapped the deployment data from powercode in our GIS
>>> software, we found it was grossly inaccurate, probably only has 10% of the
>>> blocks in the file compared to ones where we have customers. Has anyone
>>> else noticed this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We were previously not mapping the output and just blindly submitting
>>> it.... bad idea... we were grossly under reporting our coverage.
>>>
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