Update to the original post:
http://seekingalpha.com/pr/16749805-verizon-deliver-5g-service-pilot-customers-11-markets-across-u-s-mid-2017

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:

> Crownception.
>
> On Jan 26, 2017 9:23 PM, "Robert" <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>
>> Department of redundancy department?
>>
>> On 1/26/17 6:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> > Crown is just the latest in a series of fiber-related acquisitions Crown
>> > has done.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----
>> > Mike Hammett
>> >
>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> >
>> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.
>> com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> >
>> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><https://www.youtu
>> be.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>> > *From: *"Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> > *Sent: *Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:40:46 AM
>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Just to add to that....
>> >
>> > a) Take all what Brian said below, and add to it the fact that, in many
>> > cities they are very quietly installing Micro-Pops, every few blocks,
>> > fiber feed (essentially replacing street light poles with, poles which
>> > are light poles and micropops).
>> >
>> > b) The noise and developments in LTE-U
>> >
>> > c) The very strange, over-priced acquisition of FPL-Fibernet by Crown
>> Castle
>> >
>> > d) Relatively quite conversion, installation of GPON system on every
>> > building that ATT had a Metro Ethernet presence in.
>> >
>> > e) Hype and noise about Gigabit fiber delivery, installation of fiber
>> > based service in select areas, ATT Conversion of their select IFTL
>> > neighborhoods to Gigabit fiber..
>> >
>> > f) The rumblings about Cable Co's moving over the Docsis 3
>> >
>> > Granted that this is not ubiquitous across the nation.. but I can see
>> > the competitive service providers could easily be starved out by the
>> > choke hold on being able to deliver/buy/have access to  fat pipe
>> > especially in the middle mile.
>> >
>> > I think in most major metro areas the perceived minimum base level of
>> > service offering is going to hit high triple digit numbers in terms of
>> > bandwidth i.e. 200meg,300meg,500meg etc... we are already seeing
>> > customer expectations  /  perceptions around 100meg.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> >
>> > Faisal Imtiaz
>> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> > 7266 SW 48 Street
>> > Miami, FL 33155
>> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>> >
>> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Brian Webster" <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
>> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 11:46:38 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
>> >
>> >> Remember, Verizon bought XO Communications. XO has 24 GHz and 39 GHz
>> >> spectrum over most of the country, so now Verizon owns that spectrum.
>> They
>> >> seem to be taking the same approach Windstream and Google are for last
>> > mile
>> >> connectivity, but Verizon owns the spectrum. Windstream is leasing
>> > spectrum
>> >> in these same bands from Straightpath (http://straightpath39.com/) and
>> >> Google is looking to build in 70 and 80 GHz with E-Band licenses.  All
>> of
>> >> the sudden the WISP industry looks good enough for the big boys to do
>> it
>> >> too. Cambridge Networks has PTMP radios for these bands already, 600
>> > meg per
>> >> sector. Hang them on the fiber at the pole and create a very small
>> > cell type
>> >> system. This will work great for backhaul on their Pico cellular
>> network
>> >> expansion for LTE/Cellular as well as a good tool for FTTH and Business
>> >> class circuits.
>> >>
>> >> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-600
>> >>
>> >> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-platform-introduction
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank You,
>> >> Brian Webster
>> >> www.wirelessmapping.com
>> >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> >> Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:19 PM
>> >> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
>> >>
>> >> On 1/25/2017 11:58 AM, Marco Coelho wrote:
>> >>> Some of my friends at Verizon are talking a major shift in their Fiber
>> >>> Deployment.
>> >>> They have decided Fiber to the Home is non practical.  They have
>> >>> adopted a fiber to the pedestal scheme with the last part of the
>> >>> connectivity being wireless to the home.  Details on bands used have
>> >>> not been provided, but that is apparently their new model. They have
>> >>> sold their copper plant in Texas to Frontier as a part of this plan.
>> >>> Interesting times.
>> >>
>> >> That's right.  FiOS is basically over, for new builds. Too expensive.
>> > It is
>> >> mostly down to some FTTPR (fiber to the press release). They told
>> Boston
>> >> that they would build FiOS there. Lots of good press last year.
>> >> But they actually had built out some neighborhoods about a decade ago,
>> and
>> >> simply not activated it. So now they're activating it and claiming
>> it's a
>> >> new build. But in the meantime they are planning massive densification
>> of
>> >> their wireless capacity, using street light poles, and basically just
>> >> building fiber to the pole. They've told this to Wall Street; they
>> haven't
>> >> made it clear to the locals.
>> >>
>> >> While 4G meant LTE, 5G apparently just means "whatever we do after
>> > deploying
>> >> LTE, because 5 comes after 4".
>> >>
>> >> ATT has this "IP transition" plan which doesn't have much to do with
>> IP.
>> >> It basically means they're abandoning most of the copper, updating some
>> >> short loops to U-Verse, and putting in a lot more wireless to replace
>> the
>> >> copper. It's not fiber speed but it's cheap. Both AT&T and Verizon are
>> > very
>> >> very interested in 3.5 GHz CBRS, as well as millimeter wave for where
>> that
>> >> works. You may recall that a few months ago, AT&T announced a plan to
>> put
>> >> millimeter wave backhaul on top of utility poles, beaming pole to pole
>> >> (about half a mile), and using the electrical wires as a sort of
>> waveguide
>> >> to help the signal.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>  Fred R. Goldstein      k1io    fred "at" interisle.net
>> >>  Interisle Consulting Group
>> >>  +1 617 795 2701
>> >>
>> >>
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