ASR-1004

John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
INC 5000 #2593
CRN Fast Growth #105
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com

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On 6/30/2017 1:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
Which ASRs are you running?


On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Mike Francis via Mikrotik-users <mikrotik-us...@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-us...@wispa.org>> wrote:

    I am a bog Mikrotik fan, but rely on cisco for our Core and Edge.
    Our latest BGP config for Edge services are a Cisco ASR for
    Primary, then we are running a CHR on top of our Vmware platform
    for secondary BGP. we have several CHRs passing several gigs of
    traffic and they are very solid. We have this deployed in 4
    datacenters like this and it is working very well, keeps cost
    down, and is very flexible.

    Thank you,

    John Michael Francis II
    JMF Solutions, Inc
    Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
    INC 5000 #2593
    CRN Fast Growth #105
    251-517-5069 <tel:%28251%29%20517-5069>
    http://jmfsolutions.net
    http://wavefly.com

    "People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them
    anyway. If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives.
    Do good anyway. If you are successful, you may win false friends
    and true enemies. Succeed anyway. The good you do today may be
    forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and transparency make
    you vulnerable. Be honest and transparent anyway. What you spend
    years building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People
    who really want help may attack you if you help them. Help them
    anyway. Give the world the best you have and you may get hurt.
    Give the world your best anyway." By: Mother Teresa
    On 6/30/2017 12:46 PM, David Jones via Mikrotik-users wrote:
    Good morning.

    I have a deep question for the Mikrotik people and the Cisco people.

    Let me give you an overview of where we are.
    Currently we have all of our tower sites using Mikrotik
    connecting to our core with MPLS/VPLS to our core that is
    multiple Mikrotik routers using VRRP (I had a core die from power
    supply failure and our network didn't skip a beet while it was
    replaced.) The VRRP core then connects to our edge that is a
    Cisco ASR1001-x that connects to our BGP peers.

    The reason we went with Cisco was because all the CCR Mikrotik
    Lagged horribly when doing BGP full tables. We had a Maxxwave
    router that did fine with the BGP but had crap interface support
    with Mikrotik not having good drivers for the interfaces.
    Different MTU for the MPLS caused problems.

    It appears that now with Mikrotik's CHR fixes the driver
    problems. the Virtual host deals with the drivers so Mikrotik
    doesn't have to.

    All has been fine for a few years... but now the Cisco has reset
    itself twice in the past week. For whatever reason a reboot on a
    Cisco = 15-20min down time. We are now needing a VRRP solution
    for the Edge.

    So here is the cross roads... Do we get another ASR1001-x and
    struggle for a while to get a form of VRRP to work between them?
    Or do we get something like this
    
(https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-SuperServer-5018D-FN8T-Rackmount-10GbE/dp/B01LXUATHB
    
<https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-SuperServer-5018D-FN8T-Rackmount-10GbE/dp/B01LXUATHB>)
    and keep it all Mikrotik for ease of training and use?

    We do not have much experience with Cisco. It takes us quite a
    bit to configure and change them. is it worth learning and paying
    the 12x the price for less throughput?
    Cisco ASR 1001 2.5gbps throughput = $6,680
    Cisco Licence for 10gbps throughput = $13,099
    Total for 1 Cisco router + Repair of current + 1 Spare = $41,558

    vs Mikrotik
    Supermicro SuperServer 5018D-FN8T + 16G mem + SSD = $986
    CHR 10Gbps upload per interface = $95
    Total for 2 routers + 1 spare = $3,243

    Is Cisco still the better option? would it be better to say use 3
    MK routers in VRRP with one spare so 2 can fail and not be a problem?

-- David Jones
    NGL Connection
    307-288-5491 ext 702 <tel:%28307%29%20288-5491>


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