Hello all.  I'm a bit late to this conversation as I was out of office last
week, but we provide service in an area with a very large number of second
lake homes.

You can check our packages and pricing structure on our web site Services
page (link below), but the general gist is we set specific on/off dates to
keep things reasonable on our end.  Customers can "add on" service during
the off season, and they will pay the regular monthly rate for their level
of service.

We bill annually for summer-only service, also to keep things simple, and
frankly if they can afford a second home, they can afford an annual
payment.

We upcharge on the "per-month" fee since we are buying our bandwidth,
maintaining our network, etc., all year round, so if they want a shorter
service period, they will pay a bit more per month.  Sometimes they
question this, and generally when I explain the rationale they get it.  I
always say it's better than paying year round for something you aren't
using.

And finally, we do not offer a lower-speed option during the off season.
If a customer has remote equipment that they need access to year round,
they must get our service year round, but they can turn it down to our
lowest-level package since that works just fine with remote access.

If you have any other questions, I'd be happy to answer offline.  This is a
topic for which we've spent a great deal of time analyzing the data and
talking with customers about what would work for them (and us).  About 17%
of our customers are seasonal, so it's a big number.



*LORI COLLINS*
*President*

*SONICNET INC.*

888.631.9666
229 W. Pine St.
PO Box 416
Eagle River, WI 54521

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> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 16:24:59 +0000
> From: Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] snowbird - seasonal packages & pricing
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> Either its on or not..  they can change plans, but that?s about it.  I
> would not offer a off package, cause then you are not getting anything.  I
> understand the reason, but that is what DSL or cable would do, its either a
> package or its off.  And its only off it you are out of term.
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Evans
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:12 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] snowbird - seasonal packages & pricing
>
> For those of you who offer this service, how are your packages
> structured?? I can see 2 packages, one where the internet is actually not
> available at all and one where there is a minimal connection for home
> monitoring.? I am interested in minimum terms of full package pricing and
> if you charge a minimum for the inactive period.
>
> Thanks in advance
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> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 12:28:14 -0400
> From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] snowbird - seasonal packages & pricing
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> With Powercode we take off the "montly internet service" which enables them
> to have Internet, speed rating, etc and then add a "monthly service" which
> does all the normal billing stuff but doesn't add any Internet speed
> plan/allow them to get online.
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> Josh Luthman
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> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com> wrote:
>
> > For those of you who offer this service, how are your packages
> > structured?  I can see 2 packages, one where the internet is actually
> > not available at all and one where there is a minimal connection for
> > home monitoring.  I am interested in minimum terms of full package
> > pricing and if you charge a minimum for the inactive period.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Evans, Managing Member
> > PennWisp, LLC
> > www.pennwisp.com
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> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:31:05 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] snowbird - seasonal packages & pricing
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> I just offer a discount commensurate to the amount of time a year they're
> gone and done. I donn't shut it off or anything. Too much work to keep
> track of.
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> From: "Jeff Evans" <jev...@pennwisp.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:11:51 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] snowbird - seasonal packages & pricing
>
> For those of you who offer this service, how are your packages
> structured? I can see 2 packages, one where the internet is actually
> not available at all and one where there is a minimal connection for
> home monitoring. I am interested in minimum terms of full package
> pricing and if you charge a minimum for the inactive period.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
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> PennWisp, LLC
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> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:10:26 -0400
> From: Daniel K <satha...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
> To: wireless@wispa.org
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> Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast after
> Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called
> RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now.
>
> I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones,
> communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some
> of the local WISPs get back on their feet.
>
> Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much for
> resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong
> electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could
> benefit any similar effort if there is one.
>
>
> Thanks,
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> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 18:15:33 -0500
> From: Mike Goicoechea <m...@cielosystems.net>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
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> We used to have a wispa response resource but not sure of its status. I
> have
> reached out to a WISP in Arecibo PR and Gino in San Juan. I will let you
> know if I get any response.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Goicoechea | Chief Operating Officer |
>
> Cielo Systems International | 806.977.9001 ext 101| m...@cielosystems.net
>
> Skype Mike. Goik| www.cielosystems.net <http://www.cielosystems.net/> |
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>
>
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> <https://twitter.com/CieloSystems>
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> From:  <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Daniel K
> <satha...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To:  WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date:  Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 6:10 PM
> To:  <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject:  [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>
> Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast after
> Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called
> RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now.
>
> I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones,
> communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some
> of the local WISPs get back on their feet.
>
> Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much for
> resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong
> electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could
> benefit any similar effort if there is one.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 18:43:32 -0700
> From: Sonja Harris <so...@conifercom.net>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Message-ID: <9c5d586f-6745-4ce4-b3bb-4e51a87f7...@conifercom.net>
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> Disaster Tech Lab: https://www.facebook.com/DisasterTechLab/ does a lot
> of good work setting up telecom networks for the population effected. And
> they always work with local WISPs whenever possible.
>
>
>
> Sonja Harris
>
> so...@conifercom.net
>
> Conifer Communications
>
> www.ConiferCommunications.com
>
> (866) 378-8393
>
>
>
> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Daniel K <
> satha...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:10 PM
> To: <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>
>
>
> Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast
> after Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called
> RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now.
>
>
>
> I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones,
> communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some
> of the local WISPs get back on their feet.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much
> for resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong
> electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could
> benefit any similar effort if there is one.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:27:24 -0700
> From: Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Message-ID: <13e74eb5-15d5-a150-1579-800eeb9a6...@oregononline.net>
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> If someone only had a little money they could really help a lot of people
>
> JV
>
>
>
> On 09/26/2017 04:15 PM, Mike Goicoechea wrote:
> > We used to have a wispa response resource but not sure of its status.
> > I have reached out to a WISP in Arecibo PR and Gino in San Juan. I
> > will let you know if I get any response.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > *Mike Goicoechea* | Chief Operating Officer |
> >
> > *Cielo Systems International *|806.977.9001 ext
> > 101|m...@cielosystems.net <mailto:m...@cielosystems.net>
> >
> > Skype Mike. Goik|www.cielosystems.net <http://www.cielosystems.net/>|
> >
> > *
> > ****<https://www.facebook.com/cielosystemsinternational><htt
> ps://twitter.com/CieloSystems><http://www.linkedin.com/
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> >
> > From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>
> > on behalf of Daniel K <satha...@gmail.com <mailto:satha...@gmail.com>>
> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org
> > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> > Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 6:10 PM
> > To: <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> > Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
> >
> > Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast
> > after Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization
> > called RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now.
> >
> > I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones,
> > communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping
> > some of the local WISPs get back on their feet.
> >
> > Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have
> > much for resources but do have an authorized climber certification and
> > a strong electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm
> > sure could benefit any similar effort if there is one.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list
> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org>
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