I talked to a reporter on Net Neutrality yesterday, and this is one of the things I highlighted, as a scenario in which an ISP could help customers after Title II no longer applied. Like, "I know your Internet stinks right now; it's your XBox updates and your Windows updates, and that's the reason you can't stream Netflix. I can't manage traffic priorities during peak hours for you." I had a customer call for support because their PS4 was uploading and saturating their upstream. We ended the call with all electronics in his house in a pile in the living room to prove that it was one of his devices and not my service. tim -- Tim Cailloux t...@southern-internet.com (404) 406-9911
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017, at 12:55, Vance Shipley wrote: > Good story. This is the stuff that people don't understand. Policy > enforcement is good for everyone, including the enforcee! Net > neutrality, as imagined by it's staunch supporters, is a really bad > idea. They imagine it's about "big corporate" stifling competition and > innovation but the very real everyday impact of real "neutrality" > would be normal people suffering poor service so the geeky few could > pay less for their consumption and no back pressure on abuse.> > > On Dec 15, 2017 21:34, "Kris McElroy" > <kmcel...@threesixtycomm.net> wrote:>> I would agree with Adair, Torrent is a > non-issue for us. We have >> seen more complaints from Windows Update and Xbox Live Updates >> impacting customers connections, meaning they call in and say “I am >> paying for 20 Meg service and when I run a speed test I am only >> seeing 2 Meg Down or wny is my Netflix buffering”. We go and look >> and they will have a windows update running in the background taking >> 18-19 Meg of their connection up and you have to explain that to >> them, same way with Xbox accept all our gamers have our 50 Meg plan >> and it will chew up 30 to 40 Meg downloading an update or game. >> Luckily, we can manage this with our Procera now so we don’t hear >> from customers as much.____>> __ __ >> Kris McElroy____ >> __ __ >> __ __ >> __ __ >> *From: *<wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett >> <wispawireless@ics- >> il.net> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> *Date: >> *Friday, December 15, 2017 at 9:51 AM *To: *WISPA General List >> <wireless@wispa.org> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & >> bandwidth providers____>> __ __ >> Fair how?____ >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions[1] mage removed by >> sender.mage removed by sender.mage removed by sender.mage removed by >> sender. Midwest Internet Exchange[2] mage removed by sender.mage >> removed by sender.mage removed by sender. The Brothers WISP[3] mage >> removed by sender.mage removed by sender.____>> >> *From: *"Vance Shipley" <van...@sigscale.com> *To: *"WISPA General >> List" <wireless@wispa.org> *Sent: *Friday, December 15, 2017 9:43:31 >> AM *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers____>> Because >> it's the fair thing to do. As a neighbour I would greatly >> appreciate it.____>> __ __ >> On Dec 15, 2017 21:05, "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >> wrote:____>>> Why?____ >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions[4] mage removed by >>> sender.mage removed by sender.mage removed by sender.mage removed >>> by sender. Midwest Internet Exchange[5] mage removed by sender.mage >>> removed by sender.mage removed by sender. The Brothers WISP[6] mage >>> removed by sender.mage removed by sender.____>>> >>> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> *To: *"WISPA General >>> List" <wireless@wispa.org> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 >>> 11:04:43 AM *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth >>> providers >>> >>> I want to be able to throttle torrent users. Beyond that, I don't >>> think it will affect us much in areas of high-competition. >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>> [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, >>> December 12, 2017 6:57 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: >>> [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers >>> >>> On 12/10/17 2:44 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: >>> > What are the current thoughts on the effects of net neutrality >>> > being over turned on our bandwidth providers? I understand how >>> > the cable and DSL companies may react but as a small WISP, I've >>> > been thinking this will have little impact on us and our >>> > customers (since we don't intend on changing our policies) but I >>> > may not be thinking about the bigger picture enough. Perhaps my >>> > bandwidth and upstream fiber providers will raise rates or charge >>> > premium fees for fast lanes to middle mile access. >>> >>> >>> Nothing. It wasn't mayhem in the decades before 2015 and it won't >>> suddenly become a problem now. The big guys are always going to try >>> some crap until someone calls them on it, "net neutrality" or not. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless____>>> __ __ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless____>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless____>> __ __ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > _________________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Links: 1. http://www.ics-il.com/ 2. http://www.midwest-ix.com/ 3. http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ 4. http://www.ics-il.com/ 5. http://www.midwest-ix.com/ 6. http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/
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