High PPS with small packet size and inefficient wireless frame use. Although 
frame aggregation resolves this for the most part. Or if you are running a high 
over-subscription ratio and can't handle the continuous traffic it generates. 
We were troubled by it at one point but those days are long gone.


  Nothing has really changed on that front, wireless providers were always 
allowed "legitimate means" to implement QoS. How that was interpreted is beyond 
me.



  And it won't be simple to target torrent traffic in particular with the 
modern techniques that mask torrent traffic as standard web traffic. Not to 
mention that legitimate systems now use torrent traffic to deliver updates. 
That's a real can of worms to open up now.



 In my opinion it's not our concern what customers do with their bandwidth 
until someone with a badge or a gavel says otherwise.


We give our customers the internet, the whole internet, and nothing but the 
internet.


Garrett Shankle

Wireless Administrator

Virginia Broadband LLC




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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of 
Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:23:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality &amp; bandwidth providers

Torrent traffic is less than 1% of our network traffic. It's never been a big 
deal for us like it probably once was.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Dan Thompson 
<d...@peakenetbroadband.com<mailto:d...@peakenetbroadband.com>> wrote:
Why do you want to be able to throttle torrent users specifically?


---- On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 12:04:43 -0500 
r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> wrote ----

I want to be able to throttle torrent users. Beyond that, I don't think it will 
affect us much in areas of high-competition.

Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

On 12/10/17 2:44 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote:
> What are the current thoughts on the effects of net neutrality being
> over turned on our bandwidth providers? I understand how the cable and
> DSL companies may react but as a small WISP, I've been thinking this
> will have little impact on us and our customers (since we don't intend
> on changing our policies) but I may not be thinking about the bigger
> picture enough. Perhaps my bandwidth and upstream fiber providers will
> raise rates or charge premium fees for fast lanes to middle mile access.


Nothing. It wasn't mayhem in the decades before 2015 and it won't suddenly 
become a problem now. The big guys are always going to try some crap until 
someone calls them on it, "net neutrality" or not.

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