Try http://www.mirrorX.de/

This tool is especially was developed in use for (wi)tango on macosX to
mirror specific files or folders to ftp-server or mounted volumes....

There is a beta, which you should try out. It will be about 30 Eur, when
ready .

Christian

> Von: Robert Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Datum: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 03:15:38 -0800
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: Witango-Talk: HTTP Upload
> 
> I have already check this solution out, along with others. Aside from
> the $400 license, it does not work on Mac OS X. Does not work at all
> with Safari, Chimera/Camino, IE, and works very inconsistently with
> Netscape 7.02 (who uses that on OS X!). So it is not a viable solution
> for those of us who need to have cross platform solutions.
> 
> Robert.
> 
> On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 12:55  AM, Niall Merrigan wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks
>> 
>> we recently had to do something like this ...
>> 
>> We ended up building an activeX control for this
>> 
>> It uses the HTTPTransfer method wand is quite fast
>> 
>> The only other thing I can suggest is using a copy of ActiveFile
>> by Infomentum
>> 
>> Its an ActiveX/Java upload system should do what you need
>> 
>> Niall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Garth Penglase wrote:
>> 
>> ->So to spell things out, are you saying that:
>> ->1. yes, http upload requires a lot of memory and will take up
>> ->whatever cpu process is available
>> ->2. however, as the client and the server will yield to other
>> ->processes requesting cpu it shouldn't have a seriously negative
>> ->affect on other accesses to the web site.
>> ->?
>> ->
>> ->In other words - while http is far from being the best file transfer
>> ->method, it will work without greatly hogging the cpu.  Obviously, the
>> ->smaller the files uploaded the better, as these will have the least
>> ->amount of impact on the server.
>> ->
>> ->Unless someone writes an external module to handle this, it is the
>> ->only way that I can see to provide technology-challenged people file
>> ->uploads on the web - so I hope that i have summed things up
>> correctly.
>> ->
>> ->And I assume that there is no advantage in using a specific platform
>> ->for this task?  (apart from the faster the better).
>> ->
>> ->Garth
>> ->
>> ->
>> ->>You should be careful uploading large files through any web
>> application
>> ->>server, especially when they are client server.  If you look at the
>> route
>> ->>that the file takes in memory it is copied quite a few times so the
>> larger
>> ->>the file the more work that needs to be done.  A typical scenario
>> would go
>> ->>like this.
>> ->>
>> ->>(This has been generalised)
>> ->>
>> ->>File submit via form
>> ->>File read into browsers memory
>> ->>File sent to web server over network
>> ->>File read from network buffer and passed to web server memory as
>> postarg
>> ->>File passed to app server client and wrapped for sending to app
>> server
>> ->>File sent to app server from client
>> ->>File unwrapped by app server memory so it can be accessed as
>> @POSTARG
>> ->>File saved to disk
>> ->>
>> ->>So as a minimum the file has been shuttled around in memory around
>> 7 times.
>> ->>Add to this the encoding that may happen if debug/logging is turned
>> on so
>> ->>that the variable that contains the data is displayed in the debug
>> trace/log
>> ->>and it may be greater.
>> ->>
>> ->>Remember that the client runs in the web server's memory space so
>> this can
>> ->>make the CPU and memory of the web server process appear to race as
>> it is
>> ->>encapsulating the postarg to be sent to the server..
>> ->>
>> ->>Now that the client and server are preemtive, they will attempt to
>> take as
>> ->>much CPU as they have available to them.  Both the client and
>> server should
>> ->>yield to other processes requesting cpu so the machine should not
>> become
>> ->>unresponsive.
>> ->>
>> ->>As a rule of thumb, you should try and get the file to the server
>> using the
>> ->>shortest path possible and should save it to disk asap.  Using http
>> is not
>> ->>the most efficient way of doing this.
>> ->>
>> ->>Phil
>> ->>
>> ->>
>> ->>On 24/3/03 12:17 PM, "Garth Penglase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ->>
>> ->>>  It may be a Windows issue not an IIS 5 issue.
>> ->>>  Any thoughts Phil/Sophie?
>> ->>>  Garth
>> ->>>
>> ->>>>  Robert
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>  I tried this on a XP box with apache. IT has 640 megs of ram
>> and a
>> ->>>>  2.0ghz p4 and my cpu usage went up to 100% so its not an issue
>> with IIS.
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>  Mike D
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>  -----Original Message-----
>> ->>>>  From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ->>>>  Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:29 PM
>> ->>>>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ->>>>  Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: HTTP Upload
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>  I haven't done enough testing yet, but I don't think this is a
>> Witango
>> ->>>>  issue, but a IIS 5 issue.
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>  It would really help if someone had a IIS 5 server using http
>> upload
>> ->>>>  that can test this, so I dont have to set that up.
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>  Robert.
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>  On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 11:16  PM, Garth Penglase wrote:
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>   I'd be very interested as to whether this is purely a
>> Windows/Witango
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>   issue or if it relates to OSX and other platforms. I agree
>> that it is
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>   totally unacceptable that there is anything more than a few
>> percentage
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>   cpu usage, and this will significantly affect performance on
>> my
>> ->>  >>>  servers when I upgrade to Wi5 in the next week or so, as I
>> have a
>> ->>  >>>  number of apps that will require this service.
>> ->>  >>>
>> ->>  >>>  Maybe With has a comment on this one....??
>> ->>>>>   Garth
>> ->>>>>
>> ->>>>>>   Thats not the issue. The issue is having a solution for a
>> client that
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>>    is not savvy enough to use an ftp client. I already use
>> webdav in
>> ->>  >>>>  such  a way that they could connect with a webfolder from
>> windows, or
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>>    directly from OS X. But these are people that can only be
>> expected
>> ->>>>>>   to  work with a single interface, and click a few buttons.
>> Using HTTP
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>>    Upload is very simple and suits that. But HTTP Upload has
>> other
>> ->>>>>>   problems, and this CPU Usage issue now knocks it completely
>> off my
>> ->>>>>>   list.
>> ->>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>   Robert.
>> ->>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>   On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 05:10  AM, Michael
>> Dittbrenner wrote:
>> ->>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   Robert
>> ->>>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   Why not just put up a ftp server instead of using http. Ftp
>> protocol
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   is
>> ->>>>>>>   a lot faster than http for uploading and puts less strain
>> on the
>> ->>>>>>>   server.
>> ->>>>>>>   Windows 2000 comes with a ftpd built in and if your client
>> doesn't
>> ->>>>>>>   have
>> ->>>>>>>   a ftp client they can download a trial from like
>> www.globalscape.com
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>>>    for
>> ->>>>>>>   cuteftp.
>> ->>>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   Michael Dittbrenner
>> ->>>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>> ->>>>>>>   From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ->>>>>>>   Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 6:59 AM
>> ->>>>>>>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ->>>>>>>   Subject: Witango-Talk: HTTP Upload
>> ->>>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   I normally don't use http upload for many reasons, but I
>> had to do a
>> ->>>>>>>   quick and dirty solution for a client. They must be able to
>> upload
>> ->>>>>>>   MP3
>> ->>>>>>>   files to our servers. The files range from 10-20 megs.
>> Before I put
>> ->>>>>>>   this into production, I wanted to test the load it would
>> put on my
>> ->>>>>>>   servers. My app uses witango to accept the file argument,
>> and write
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>>>  it
>> ->>>>>>>  to a file where I want it. I am running Witango 054 and IIS
>> 5 on
>> ->>>>>>>  windows 2000. During the upload, the server pegs 100% CPU
>> usage,
>> ->>>>>>>  dllhost.exe and inetinfo.exe being the culprits. Witango
>> only spikes
>> ->>>>>>>   when the upload is done to write the file.
>> ->>>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   Since I have only used http upload with very small files in
>> the
>> ->>>>>>>   past, I
>> ->>>>>>>   have never noticed this. This is totally unacceptable. If I
>> upload
>> ->>>>>>>   the
>> ->>>>>>>   same file to the same IIS Server using IIS WebDav, it
>> doesn't break
>> ->>>>  a
>> ->>>>>>>   sweat, 1-2% CPU Usage. I can't recall every testing this
>> with other
>> ->>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   web
>> ->>>>>>>   servers, does anyone else have any info with apache or
>> Webstar?
>> ->>>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   It looks like I will have to write a custom desktop app for
>> this
>> ->>>>>>>   client's admin, which I did not want to do. If anyone knows
>> of any
>> ->>>>>>>   IIS
>> ->>>>>>>   5 tweaks that may help, I would appreciate it. My systems
>> are
>> ->>>>>>>   completely patched once a week.
>> ->>>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   --
>> ->>>>>>>
>> ->>>>>>>   Robert Garcia
>> ->>>>>>>   President - BigHead Technology
>> ->>>>>>>   CTO - eventpix.com
>> ->>>>>>>   2781 N Carlmont Pl
>> ->>>>>>>   Simi Valley, Ca 93065
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