I don't means to trod on any sensitivities. If you vigorously disagree with what I am saying please forgive, but simply as an observation:
Though PHP is perceived as open and free, it runs on the Zend Engine and the Zend Egine is proprietary. You can use it now for free in the form you have it available now. But that is not guaranteed to be for future updates and versions, cause the owners of the Zend engine could decide to stop making updates for free. So the continued availability of PHP is a little vaporware (not misspelled, but US-spelled). Plus to get PHP's full performance capability right now, you have to purchase the development tools to utilize Zend Accelerator, that is supposed to provide better performance than the plain open and free PHP scripting. Sendmail has gone commercial, Berkeley Database has gone commercial, you can't buy RedHat enterprise server license (the version supported for real production) for less than $1,500 USD etc. When you build a business, the choices are different from home (I mean domestic!) pages. Having said that, I continue to wait for the full release of Witango 5 for Linux and its installer.
Business Decisions! :)
Sri Amudhanar


Scott Cadillac wrote:
Yes, how to grow our community. A question we have pondered often on the
list. 

My belief is that we have to do most of it ourselves - or else, by
definition it's not a community anymore. 

My approach is sharing information and code http://witango.org and
http://xml-extra.net , because I believe the more I give away, the more I'll
get back.

Coding Tango and Witango has supported me with a full-time job for the last
4 years, so I'll continue supporting it as long as the product is still
being developed - which it is.

Remember, ColdFusion continues to support developers as well, and that
support is returned constantly by their community - and it was never free.

As for the Witango business plan? I can't say. But I think Witango is much
more akin to ColdFusion than PHP, especially when it comes to a serious
business solution. So it's hard to say if the "free" PHP approach would help
elevate Witango's reputation.

Are you coming to the Conference in San Diego? I'll buy you a beer and we'll
chat some more :-)

Cheers......

Scott Cadillac,
Witango.org - http://witango.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Wide Adoption? a little OT


thanks scott. exactly that's what i feel. how do we grow the witango
community? giving the app server away at no charge? or...?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Witango Wide Adoption? a little OT

And we do have an EXCELLENT Witango community. Maybe finding 
new ways to
grow the size of our community would........

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