If one of your Witango services is crashed or hung, you'll see an
intermittent issue like this. See if restarting everything corrects the
problem (at least for a while). Write a utility that will check to see
that each service is properly running.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wolf, Gene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Witango-Talk: Strange problem

   OK, I'm at the end of my rope and I thought a few more eyes looking
at
this might be able to give me some ideas as to where to look. We have
Windows Professional using a SQL database. For the last 9 months
everything
has been working smoothly. Suddenly 3 weeks ago we started getting
reports
that some people, sporadically, could not use the electronic Timecard
system
written in Witango. Now, this system has been working fine for over 9
months. The first reports we chalked up to user error because after
retrying
the user was able to make it work. However, the reports continued to
come in
and grew more frequent.

   I can now replicate the error on my system though it is not
consistent.
What I mean by that is, if I try long enough I can make the error
happen,
but sometimes it takes quite a while to happen, and other times it'll
happen
right away.

   What we're seeing in the generic page that indicates, This page
cannot be
displayed, as though we are pointing to an invalid server address.
Almost as
though there is a DNS error. The other error we see is a totally blank
page.
The error page is the most common but blank page results do happen as
well.

   Our location is split between 2 facilities separated by about 6
miles.
Witango runs on one server, the SQL database runs on another server.
Both
servers are up to date, have no virus issues, and have been running this
software for the last several months flawlessly. We recently upgraded to
Witango Professional but it was running for several weeks, without
issue, so
we assume this is not the problem. I've copied all of the facts we know
below from an e-mail I sent to my management and networking folks this
morning with some additions for folks not familiar with our server
names. If
anyone has any ideas to pursue please shoot them my way. I'm totally
stumped
by this one!


************** memo sent **************************

   OK, I've done everything I know and we still have problems with the
timecard system. Here are the issues:

   1. It's not dead. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Most of
the
time it does.
   2. Some people it hardly ever works for, Marty Jennings for example.
   3. Some people it never fails for, Greg Mcelhinny for example.
   4. For some people it does not work for, on their personal machine,
we
can bring up their card and it works fine.
   5. Most of the problems seem to be in Melbourne, not Palm Bay,
although
we have problems here too.
   6. I have turned on debugging and the program seems to be doing just
what
it is supposed to be doing.
   7. When it fails we get either Page cannot be found (like it's
looking at
an invalid IP address) or a blank screen.
   8. The program never fails under Opera or Netscape
   9. It seems to be only an issue with the Timecard system, nothing
else.
All other Witango programs are behaving normally.
  10. We have updated Alabama with all critical patches as of yesterday.
The
problem still exists.
  11. I have searched the Microsoft Knowledge base and nothing seems to
relate to us with this problem.
  12. On some systems, like my own desktop machine, the problem is
sporadic.
Sometimes it will fail, sometimes not.

   What I'd like to try to do, if possible, is to trace what Alabama
(Witango Server) is trying to access network wise. I'm sure it is not a
network issue, but I need to know what Alabama is trying to access in
those
cases it is displaying the "Page cannot be Displayed" message. At the
point
that message is displayed my program is out of the loop and there's
nothing
I can do to determine where it is going. I have traced the program to
the
end in the cases it fails and it looks like the timecard should be
displayed. It isn't. I'm wondering if the Witango server is generating a
bad
header record that IIS is not handling properly, or whether the browser
is
not handling properly. 

   Clay, do you have any kind of network sniffing tool that we can use
to
look to see just what Alabama is sending out to the network, where it's
trying to go, so we can see what it's trying to do? 

   Other than that, I'm at a loss for what to do in order to fix this
problem.

   All suggestions are welcomed!

Gene Wolf
Business Systems Analyst, TLMN
DRS Optronics, Inc.
2330 Commerce Park Drive
Palm Bay, Florida  32905
Phone: 321-309-0685
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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