I prefer the HTTP header 302 redirect instead of the <meta>.  I'm not 
aware of any bot problems with the 302.  (But I haven't really looked too 
hard either).

>Not sure. Somebody else will have to answer this.
>
>>Great point. I should probably use a branch. Can you "branch with no return"
>>within a class file? If so, will it execute the rest of the calling taf
>>file?
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:45 AM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Login/Affiliates/Cookies/Spiders (OT)
>>
>>
>>I believe that "redirect" is the important phrase here. Are you
>>talking an actual meta redirect? or a branch. If using a meta
>>redirect, the robot will only follow a 301 permanent redirect,
>>otherwise it stops.
>>
>>>I have a routine that every page in my site executes, so implementation
>>>should be pretty easy.
>>>
>>>So every time a visitor selects a page, I check for a userid. If not
>>present
>>>I would check for a cookie. If neither, I would redirect to the "login
>>>benefits" page.
>>>
>>>If I don't allow spiders to crawl this page (with robots.txt) and this is
>>>the page the visitor is redirected to if they don't have a cookie or
>>userid,
>>>wouldn't that stop the spider from crawling the site?
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:09 AM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Login/Affiliates/Cookies/Spiders (OT)
>>>
>>>
>>>Create a robots.txt file and add it to the top of the heiarchy of the
>>>site. In the robots.txt file, add the following....
>>>
>>>User-agent: *
>>>Disallow: DoNotCrawlThisPage.taf
>>>
>>>The DoNotCrawlThisPage.taf is the page you do not want robots to crawl.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Fogelson, Steve wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Windows 2003 Web Edition IIS 6.0, R:Tango 5, Oterro 3.0
>>>>>
>>>>>I would like to suggest that visitors login to a site when they first
>>>enter
>>>>>it. Presently I check to see if they have a user scoped userid. If they
>>>>>don't I set it to the session cookie userreference. So I was thinking
>>that
>>>>>if they didn't have a user id, I would redirect to a page that would list
>>>>>benefits of signing in and provide login input fields.
>>>>>I also want to create a persistent cookie to place on their computer that
>>>>>would contain an affiliate code if the visitor was referred to the site
>>by
>>>>>an affiliate. So I could check to see if they have this cookie first. If
>>>>>they have a cookie, it would be nice to log them in as well as read their
>>>>>affiliate code. But I don't know how to transmit encrypted account and
>>>>>password info in the form of a cookie first to their computer and then at
>>>a
>>>>>later date (subsequent visits) back to my site. Any comments?
>>>>>
>>>>>I also have a challenge when a search engine spider hits the site. I
>>don't
>>>>>want to redirect the spider to a "login suggestion" page. Any suggestions
>>>on
>>>>>how to determine if the visitor is a spider? Maybe use <@CGIPARAM>. I
>>>>>noticed when looking at my IIS logs, that there are entries like the
>>>>>following:
>>>>>
>>>>Why do you care if the spider indexes your login suggestion page.
>>>>Assuming that page still has links to the content that you want to
>>>>be indexed by the spider, I don't see any harm in it indexing that
>>>>suggestion page.  And if you didn't want it to index that page,
>>>>there might even be an http heaeder or <META> tag that you could add
>>>>to just that login suggestion page that would cause the bot to not
>>>>index it.
>>>>
>>>>To answer your question below, you can get to that data through the
>>>>@CGIPARAM tag.  It's the "USER_AGENT"
>>>>
>>>>/John
>>>>
>>>>>66.196.93.29 HTTP/1.0
>>>>>YahooSeeker/1.1+(compatible;+Mozilla+4.0;+MSIE+5.5;+http://help.yahoo.com
>>/
>>>he
>>>>>lp/us/shop/merchant/)
>>>>>64.68.82.55 HTTP/1.0 Googlebot/2.1+(+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)
>>>>>66.196.65.40 HTTP/1.0
>>>>>Mozilla/5.0+(compatible;+Yahoo!+Slurp;+http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysea
>>r
>>>ch
>>>>>/slurp)
>>>>>
>>>>>Is this accessible by Witango? Is it consistent? Is it useful?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for any ideas.
>>  >>>Steve Fogelson
>>>>>Internet Commerce Solutions
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