I can see how code could make the problem worse, but in our case, we could never fix it completely.

It took 2 months of tracing with primebase engineers to fix issues in their odbc implementation. And once we worked them all out, witango never went down. It never crashed, or hung, for months on end.

Then they release and update, it started doing it again, they fixed, and perfect again.

We then moved to mysql 5, and odbc 3.5.1 from mysql, and it has never crashed or hung. My witango servers DO NOT go down. We can crash the test servers, trying out beans and stuff, but they just run.

I do think this issue, is not on the witango side, maybe witango could find a way, to keep from crashing, when the odbc system does, because it is MUCH better then it was in v5, but ultimately, at least for us, work through the odbc issues, and witango 5.5.009 is rock solid. And we are pushing millions of blobs through it a day, with a dslife of only 10 mins.

--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On May 26, 2006, at 7:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hi, Christian.

This ODBC Spawn Issue has been discussed before, and as I and my
colleagues believe it is originated by ineffecient code, rather than
anything else. ODBC Driver is just a middle tier, that fails to sustain
certain conditions.

Although if you want to have a hack solution to deal with this problem.
You might want to switch Witango Service Account from Local System to
some other Domain Account, then you'd be able to use RPC Calls to kill
and restart an instance if it hung. We have been dealing with ODBC SPAWN issues by automating Restart procedures using Rkill utility from Windows
Resource Kit.

  Sincerely,

Andre Rekhtine,
Sr. IS Consultant, MCSE
Moveable Online Inc.

Sorry I accidently sent that first post without finishing it. Since we
have
been deploying Witango 5.5 (Professional usually running 4 instances of
the
service) with Windows 2003 Server SP1 we have been experience intermittent
605 errors. We are running a web based application connected to a SQL
Server
2000 backend. I know that 605 means that the ISAPI client could not
connect
to the application server (In fact Phil may remember that they created
these
codes for us when we first started testing Witango 5.5 for a fairly large customer that needed to support a lot of concurrency). I have attempted to log the server but the logs get way to big (500mb's) to allow logging for
a
long period of time. The only error that appears is that the connection to
the database failed such as:

08/04/2006 07:43:32 10.2.9.63 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2920
1 33 [Datasource] No existing connection to
the
data source found, creating a new connection. DSN: XXX; User: XXX

08/04/2006 07:43:32 10.2.9.63 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2920
1 33 [Error] -109 This type of data source is
not supported by the server license.

08/04/2006 07:43:32 10.2.9.63 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2920
1 34 [Datasource] Unable to open to XXX due
to
an error during connection

08/04/2006 07:43:32 10.2.9.63 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2920
1          34                     [Datasource] Total Connection in
Datasource Pool: 1 Max connections for the host: 0 Current connections in
use for the host: 0

08/04/2006 07:43:32 10.2.9.63 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2920
1          34                     [Error] -4 Unable to connect to the
specified data source. Verify that data source is properly configured and
that database server is online.



However, This does not seem to correlate to a 605 error. Some of you may
or
may not know that the Witango ISAPI client communicates to the service via TCP/IP sockets. It seems that there are occasions where either the ISAPI
or
the service does not properly close the socket connection. This causes the server to orphan sockets in the CLOSE_WAIT state. When this occurs you
will
see page requests hang on request to the server then timeout with a 605
(client IO timeout). Here is a sample of a netstat run at one of our
sites:



  TCP    intrigue:18155         intrigue:3484          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18156         intrigue:3698          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18156         intrigue:3699          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18156         intrigue:3921          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18156         intrigue:4010          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18156         intrigue:4011          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18157         intrigue:1560          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18157         intrigue:2184          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18157         intrigue:3196          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18157         intrigue:3423          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18158         intrigue:2340          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18158         intrigue:2536          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18158         intrigue:3045          CLOSE_WAIT

  TCP    intrigue:18158         intrigue:3209          CLOSE_WAIT



You can notice that the problem spreads across all four instances of the Witango Server. This causes the server to eventually become unresponsive. Even when the server has on connection orphaned in the CLOSE_WAIT state,
the
service cannot be stopped and the Witango.exe process must be forcibly killed. The only workaround I have found so far is to rewrite some of our more commonly called pages in a different language (not a good solution).
If
anyone has made any progress on this I could use some help. The following platforms seem to be stable with the same application running on them:



Windows 2000 / SQL Server 2000

Windows 2003  (NOT SP1) / SQL Server 2000.



Christian


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