Hi All,

I just recently converted some of my apps over from Witango to PHP. Here's what I found:-
1. Apache is a breeze
2. MySQL work great
3. myphpadmin is good
4. You need a PHP debugger ... I used Eclipse (free) but Zend, Nusphere or whatever may be better
5. There's no Visual DEv Tool that works (not that I could find) anywhere near as well as Witango
6. I had to re-write all the code ... it was a good exercise anyway.
7. My app was fairly simple

no worries
Norm



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Open Letter to Phil and Sophie
From: WebDude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, October 23, 2008 9:47 pm
To: witango-talk@witango.com

Janet,
 
I feel your pain. I have been busy downloading stuff and poking around. I have read hundreds of pages on just the install stuff for Apache, MySQL, PHP, ColdFusion, .NET... I even spent a day on nothing but open source. I have a spare server I have been thinking of using just to try some stuff out. What is really daunting is the pages upon pages and gotchyas on just an installation... not to mention the additional downloads needed to make it work in Windows. Funny... I have about 60 sites, some getting well more then 100,000 page views per day... well over 1,000,000 visitors per month in all - all on one MSSQL dedicated server and two dedicated Witango servers runninng Witango 2000. Never a slowdown and has been rock solid for over 8 years. 16 e-commerce sites, 2 Data Access Managements sites, 4 forums, 12 internal employee sites for some very large corporations, one very large directory site, 2 online streaming PDF sites and a smattering of... well, just websites. Now I am losing sleep because I am so worried about what direction to go. I spent a very large amount on the corporate license thinking that this was the way to go and have spent much time and resources in developing all I have going. I never upgraded because of the 20,000 plus I dished out and I remember the days when it was discussed that the editor would be able to output ASP and possibly PHP code... but that never  happened or was just a pipe dream. Frankly, I thought it would have been a great idea to port output of the editor to more popular languages. Anyway... enough crying in my beer. I went this route and now I am going to have to do something about it. I just spent most of the day trying to install PHP and getting the "hello world" to work. Tomorrow, I might try to see if I can actually connect to a database. This is going to take me a little while...
 

-----Original message-----
From: "janet" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:55:41 -0500
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Open Letter to Phil and Sophie


> I was wondering what to say until I saw this email from Webdude

>

> "Well, I have a problem and maybe some of you could help me. I have been

> using nothing but Tango and Witango since I started developing many years

> ago"

>

> Yes this is my story also.

> Pretty good at SQL ( MS SQL) triggers, stored procedure, views, groupings

> , maxvalues etc just a happy place for me, also HTML and Witango. I found

> that if I had good array results then the Witango stuff was easy.

> So I have looked at other RAD visual products. With ASP.net you end up with

> blocks of code either in VB or C+, there is s Borland PHP RAD, Cold fusion

> and Dreamweaver etc. But it seems that the builder tools all create either

> PHP, VB, C+ or something.

> How come Witango shielded me from all of these languages?

> I know Witango is an XML code generator so why isn't there any other

> products creating XML? I am asking the wrong question?
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