Your web site is very nice, congratulations... and I agree "start a web site, allow users to register there, have a Blog, Forum, and Events Calendar".
I think that some people is busy, shy, etc... but there is no trolls here. I think will be good if Wt centralize that redmine forum and this one in just one place, build in Wt (of course). ps.: I'm living in NYC. On 03/11/2013 04:30 PM, Jeff Flesher wrote: > As a Developer for any language, I find that personal contact always > opens up doors, whereas a closed community never grows, and the its > users start to grow intolerant of each other, you may like to call them > Trolls, but the fact is that they are just People who are feed up with > asking questions and getting no answers, but most do not see it that > way, so they ignore them, they have better things to do then answer > questions, so they promote a Closed Community, whereas an Open Community > promotes answers, and encourages questions, it then can Open doors that > did not exist when it was Closed, you find people can be more helpful, > and you find with more help, you are not so busy and can take the time > to answer more questions, so what you have to ask yourself is what type > of community do you want, then make plans to make it happen. > > As far as getting together, events are an Expense to all involved and > most can not make the time, but I still agree that they are important, > but not as important as just taking time to help each other out, because > in the long that is where an Open Community starts and stops, if you do > not have any involvement with the Community on a Daily basis, then why > would you want to get together with them? > > I live in the USA, North Western region, in the Middle of nowhere, with > no major Cities with a Population over 50,000 for a least 50 miles, this > huge Mountains to get to the next City, so its unlikely I'll have find > many living near me, so all I have is Email, and all it ever gets from > this Community is Ignored, so I doubt you will get a warm welcome here, > maybe you will get called a Troll if you bring this up, but besides > that, it would take a major attitude adjustment to change things here, I > have monitored this Community long enough to relive that, not putting it > down, I can always unsubscribe, I figure maybe I'm just not asking the > right question, or wording in a way that peaks someones curiosity, or > maybe I'm not in the Click, since I'm not on the Core team, and just a > user at best, so they feel its beneath them to answer such stupid > questions, I don't know, but it should be clear to you by now that > people here are not willing to commit to an answer, for what ever reason > they have, so it will remain a very Closed niche Community, until > someone decides to change this, but that is just My Opinion, and in this > Community I am a nobody, who has been looking for Friends in this > Community also, so best luck with this Venture. > > Your best bet is to start a Club, I know this sounds old fashion, but > I'm old, so I will suggest it, what you do is start a web site, allow > users to register there, have a Blog, Forum, and Events Calendar, I > would write the App in Wt, this way you put up a good front, using the > Software you want to meet to talk about, then you may find interest; but > make the Events run by Locals, but track them all, one place to > register, then assign Event Coordinators for each Area, which is > normally a City, or sections of a Large City, and then just Create the > Event and see who signs up for it, then you can just announce that news > here, I would also use the Chat Module, so you can do this Online, > someone else already mentioned doing this, otherwise you are in a > mailing list that is attached to a forum, that as far as I can tell is > dead, based on my experience in getting simple questions answered, I > feel like I'm bothering them, so to them I'm just a Troll for even > bringing this up, so ignore my long winded speeches, everyone else > does... and by the Way, I am not a Troll, but do agree they do like to > Rant about things, but I think they do so out of desperation more than > just wanting to be Troll and somethings someone has to remind them of > this fact. > > I started a site years ago for a CMS (http://beta.binarybitflesh.com/), > I wound not mind using it for this reason, but wound need moderators to > control it, I'm disabled, and its not the easies thing for me to take on > responsibility for a projects which requires a lot of attention, its in > Drupal, but I could load others like I did for the Blog or Forum, > eventually I want the CMS to run it all, but that is putting the horse > before the Cart, so far I can not get the software to even run on my > Host server, which is a Debian VM, but I have not given up, I just keep > working on it till I figure it out, not much else I can do without the > help of an Open Community, which is what I'm trying to start here and to > be fair to the real Developers on this Mailing list, its not their job > to answer everyones stupid question, which is why I never push that > point and still stay active on the list, they do have other things to > do, so this Community needs a good third party to step in and take this > load and traffic of this type, so that users that want an Open Community > support can get it, those on this list can monitor it if they like, but > it cuts down on all this type of discussion and puts it where it > belongs, but I don't speak for this Community, but I do want to help, > and only answer those questions being ignored by the Community, so I > don't step on anyones foot, if you know what I mean, not that I have > avoided that, in fact I think I escalated the last incidence, so even I > started to re-frame from answering questions, which is how it got this > way to begin with. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Symantec Endpoint Protection 12 positioned as A LEADER in The Forrester Wave(TM): Endpoint Security, Q1 2013 and "remains a good choice" in the endpoint security space. 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