Rob, it's not like I haven't been putting my own time into solving this as well. I spent the entire day today working on this problem, attempting to find the solution by scouring the internet and coming up with my own test cases. The question started as a simple query concerning the abilities of WiX, but led to me running into a brick wall concerning existing version removal. I read through all of the WiX documentation and (so I thought) relevant MSI documentation as well. However, I didn't think to look up the ProductVersion property, because out of everything involved in this, that was the one thing I thought I understood.
How was I to know or even fathom that such a limitation might exist without prior experience in this area? To me, this is precisely the benefit of having a community of experienced users who can help to address this kind of obscure thing. I apologize for the number of emails. To be honest I'm not entirely used to dealing with mailing lists, so perhaps I was a little out of line on etiquette, but alas there was no option of an online forum. Nevertheless I'm appreciative of all the help I received and hope it wasn't too much of a burden. The first thing I did before asking any question was to thoroughly search both the mailing list archive and google for the answer, and only posted if I couldn't find it. Somewhat relatedly, and to avoid this particular issue in the future, perhaps WiX could issue a warning if a version number is supplied with more than three components. Something to the effect that "any version components beyond three will be ignored by Windows Installer, so you should not rely on them to differentiate between versions". I know that definitely would have helped me out in this case. Again, sorry for the unintentional abuse of the mailing list. Logan Rob Mensching-2 wrote: > > Was reading the MSI SDK out of the question? > > Logan, I'm not trying to single you out but there have been a lot of > questions lately that could be answered or asked better if the people > asking the questions took the time to read the MSI SDK. I don't know > about others here but it feels a little disrespectful to me to ask > questions that take up our time without spending some of your time up > front to learn the technology. > > The Windows Installer is a very deep and intricate technology. It should > be easier and there are probably still many things we can do to improve > WiX to make learning the Windows Installer easier but we aren't going to > get there by answering questions that are already answered in the existing > documentation. > > That said, if you learn something and have a suggestion how we can improve > the WiX toolset to help the next person learn faster, I would be very > interested in hearing those suggestions. > > Thanks. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: chaiguy1337 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 16:04 > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Run CA on uninstall, but not when updating > (RemovePreviousVersions) > > > *facepalm* > > Thanks :S > > That seems to have done it. I probably never would have figured that out. > > > Brian Rogers-3 wrote: >> >> Ah, I think you revealed the problem: >> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370859(VS.85).aspx >> >> "Note that Windows Installer uses only the first three fields of the >> product version. If you include a fourth field in your product version, >> the installer ignores the fourth field." >> >> ###################################### >> $_='^#(/||/@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@:^[-['^";@@@\\>])@.". >> "{)/];)^{";$,+=(++$,);$_.=">&$,";`$_`; >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: chaiguy1337 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:38 PM >> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Run CA on uninstall, but not when updating >> (RemovePreviousVersions) >> >> >> Neither of the versions have ALLUSERS set at all, because I want them to >> be >> per-user. As I explained I worded that poorly. The installer with >> ALLUSERS=2 >> was for another product altogether, unrelated to this one. >> >> Here's what I'm doing: >> >> 1. Build and install program with version 1.0.0.0 and ProductCode 'a'. >> 2. Change version to 1.0.0.1 and ProductCode to 'b', and install again. >> >> At this point there are two entries in Add/Remove Programs, one for >> 1.0.0.0 >> and one for 1.0.0.1, despite all my efforts to make the latter remove the >> former. Bear in mind these installers are IDENTICAL except for those two >> tiny changes. >> >> Logan >> >> >> Ian Elliott (Excell Data Corporation) wrote: >>> >>> It sounds like the two msi's don't have ALLUSERS set to the same value. >>> I >>> don't believe you can perform a major upgrade on msi's that don't match. >>> They both have to be per-user or per-machine. You can't mix and match as >>> far as major upgrades go. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: chaiguy1337 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 2:23 PM >>> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Run CA on uninstall, but not when updating >>> (RemovePreviousVersions) >>> >>> >>> I logged the install and found this, but I can't make any sense of it: >>> >>> Action ended 17:16:57: InstallFinalize. Return value 1. >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:583]: Doing action: RemoveExistingProducts >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:583]: Note: 1: 2205 2: 3: ActionText >>> Action 17:16:57: RemoveExistingProducts. Removing applications >>> Action start 17:16:57: RemoveExistingProducts. >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:598]: Note: 1: 2205 2: 3: Error >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:598]: Note: 1: 2228 2: 3: Error 4: SELECT >>> `Message` FROM `Error` WHERE `Error` = 22 >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:600]: Note: 1: 2205 2: 3: Error >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:600]: Note: 1: 2228 2: 3: Error 4: SELECT >>> `Message` FROM `Error` WHERE `Error` = 23 >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:613]: Note: 1: 2205 2: 3: Error >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:613]: Note: 1: 2228 2: 3: Error 4: SELECT >>> `Message` FROM `Error` WHERE `Error` = 16 >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:617]: Note: 1: 2205 2: 3: Error >>> MSI (s) (B8:58) [17:16:57:617]: Note: 1: 2228 2: 3: Error 4: SELECT >>> `Message` FROM `Error` WHERE `Error` = 21 >>> Action ended 17:16:57: RemoveExistingProducts. Return value 1. >>> >>> My WiX msi has no ALLUSERS property at all, wheras my original product >>> had >>> ALLUSERS=2. However, I want my new product to be per-user. >>> >>> Logan >>> >>> >>> cemiles wrote: >>>> >>>> Toss up a log if you can. >>>> >>>> I'd say check your ALLUSERS property between the 2 msis (see if >>>> they're different). >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> A. Logan Murray >>> http://pihole.org/ >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://n2.nabble.com/Run-CA-on-uninstall%2C-but-not-when-updating-%28RemovePreviousVersions%29-tp1372539p1373540.html >>> Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge >>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>> prizes >>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>> world >>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WiX-users mailing list >>> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge >>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>> prizes >>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>> world >>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WiX-users mailing list >>> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users >>> >>> >> >> >> ----- >> A. 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