I didn't think there was going to be a guaranteed dependency on the
framework.  Won't VS2010 still be able to build native code applications?

Chris

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Christopher Painter <
chr...@deploymentengineering.com> wrote:

> Personally, I'd rather see a full blown extensible external UI handler
> pattern using Winforms and/or WPF.    Think about it... if WiX is being
> bundled in VS2010 and you already have a dependency on the framework,  why
> would you be wanting to poke around in WiX XML to make a 10 year old API try
> to do a decent UI when you can just hand it over to .NET instead.
>
> Which do you think will look better and be easier to implement?
>
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> --- On Thu, 2/12/09, Tim Musschoot <tim.mussch...@telenet.be> wrote:
>
> > From: Tim Musschoot <tim.mussch...@telenet.be>
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Visual Dialog Development
> > To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." <
> wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 8:28 AM
> > Hello,
> >
> > There are tools that are build upon Wix.
> >
> > - WixAware
> > - MSI Factory (Indigo Rose)
> >
> > They have a buildin dialog designer (one more mature then
> > the other).  They offer the possibility to start very
> > quickly with a base setup. For advance things you can always
> > edit the .wxs files directly.  Most advanced Wix users can
> > do things as fast in text-edit mode as they can with wizard
> > support.  But I agree, to start fluently with Wix, a lot
> > more work needs to be done.  Let's hope VS2010 will get
> > things better...
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Tim
> >
> > >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > >Van
> > : Arun Perregatturv
> > [mailto:aperregatt...@napcosecurity.com]
> > >Verzonden
> > : donderdag
> > , februari
> >  12, 2009 03:01 PM
> > >Aan
> > : 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML
> > toolset.'
> > >Onderwerp
> > : Re: [WiX-users] Visual Dialog Development
> > >
> > >No. If you open an Msi in Orca you have the tables on
> > the left and details on the right.
> > >Same way, if you open a Wxs file, list all the
> > Directory, Components, ComponentGroups,on the left.
> > >So I click on Components it will list all the
> > components on the right and selecting individual component
> > will list all the Files and selecting a file properties will
> > list all the properties available to File.
> > >
> > >If you take a look at ISTool http://www.istool.org for
> > InnoSetup its very simple interface and will allow you to
> > write scripting and add files visually.
> > >
> > >Something like this for Wix would make it easier and
> > more people will adopt to it.
> > >For example, if I have to create a small installer in
> > Inno it takes 10 minutes or less to add files set the
> > properties(all visually) and create a executable. But If I
> > choose Wix it will take more than 10 minutes for me to
> > create a msi not executable. Having a Visual tool to create
> > setup will definitely make more people to use Wix toolset
> > and create installers faster and on the other hand you can
> > still go back to code and modify it.
> > >
> > >The reason for comparison is to give an idea of how
> > easier or how Wix can be used by more people with less
> > learning curve.
> > >I know there are lot of Wix Utilities available but
> > most of them open one wix file instead of the Wix Project. I
> > tried the SharpDevelop it opens Wixs Project and looks good.
> > >
> > >Arun Perregattur
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:31 PM
> > >To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML
> > toolset.
> > >Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Visual Dialog Development
> > >
> > >>> something like Orca look and feel
> > >
> > >Really, what that bad :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Arun Perregatturv
> > [mailto:aperregatt...@napcosecurity.com]
> > >Sent: 11 February 2009 21:51
> > >To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML
> > toolset.
> > >Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Visual Dialog Development
> > >
> > >I would like to vote for this feature. if needed I can
> > help in
> > >developing.
> > >
> > >VS Plugin something like Orca look and feel.
> > >
> > >
> > >Arun Perregattur
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: eseeR [mailto:0x000...@gmail.com]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:49 PM
> > >To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > >Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Visual Dialog Development
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks, I tried that out a little but it's sort of
> > clunky. What would be
> > >awesome is a plugin for VS that let's you author
> > the dialog like
> > >WinForms.
> > >Anyone working on something like that?
> > >
> > >On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Neil Sleightholm (via
> > Nabble) <
> > >ml-user+58265-1177156...@n2.nabble.com<ml-user%2b58265-1177156...@n2.nabble.com>
> <ml-user%2b58265-1177156...@n2.nab
> > >ble.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I use WiXEdit: http://wixedit.sourceforge.net/
> > >>
> > >> Neil
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: eseeR
> > >[mailto:0x000...@...<
> http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&n
> > >ode=2310507&i=0>]
> > >>
> > >> Sent: 11 February 2009 18:23
> > >> To:
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> > >> Subject: [WiX-users] Visual Dialog Development
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello, is there any guidance/tools on how to
> > author dialogs with a
> > >> visual
> > >> interface?
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> > skills and code to
> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine
> > the power of local
> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the
> > Adobe AIR SDK and
> > Ajax docs to start building applications
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> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code
> to
> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of
> local
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