Hi,
I've noticed this exact thing with the C++ runtimes in dependency
walker, I just assumed that it was slightly wrong as the application worked.
It can find direct dependencies in WinSxS but not dependencies of dependiencies.
Dave
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From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 08 June 2010 14:03
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C++ Dependency Help
Hmm, think I just stumbled into the depends / winsxs that you are talking
about. I noticed that I had depends 2.1 so I upgraded to 2.2 and suddenly the
findings were different.
For 2.1, when I loaded B.dll it resolved everything. Now in 2.2 it finds
MSVCR80.dll and MSVCP80.dll but then says MSVCP80.dll can't find MSVCR80.dll.
Huh? It just found MSVCR80.dll up a level.
I'm confused now.
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From: Christopher Painter <[email protected]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 7:17:21 AM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C++ Dependency Help
Hmmm, I've not experienced depends / sxs issues in the past so I love to fill
in the knowledge gap possibly exposed by that question. And no, all my CA's
are written in C# using DTF.
I'm told the application is broken. I did create a manifest for A.DLL telling
it had dependencies of the versions that B.dll had it helped depends to resolve
them. I haven't tried doing this in the actual application though. I've also
noticed that if I just deploy the unresolved DLL's privately they end up being
found. This of course introduces other concerns such as not being able to
service those dll's through microsoft hotfixes. Perhaps this is acceptable
though?
My bigger concern though is how normal is it to go from a managed assembly to
a mixed mode assembly to a native assembly where A and B are built and running
against different versions of the C++ runtime. I'm ignorant in this area ( my
only C was ANSI C on Solaris 10+ years ago ) so I don't know if this is normal
or red flag stuff.
I'm thinking about posting this on stack overflow but I was hoping to get an
answer from someone versed in both C++ and deployment considerations.
----- Original Message ----
From: dB. <[email protected]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 8:39:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C++ Dependency Help
Isn't depends simply busted for WinSxS?
I assume the application doesn't run? Just in case, if those A.DLL and B.DLL
are custom actions this won't work - you have to install the CRTs outside of
the MSI (something about loading per-process).
dB. @ dblock.org
Moscow|Geneva|Seattle|New York
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WiX-users] C++ Dependency Help
I have a C++ dependency issue that I'm trying to figure out.
A.DLL depends on: ( compiled by us using VS2008 )
MSCOREE.dll
KERNEL32.dll
MSVCM90.DLL 9.0.21022.8
MSVCR90.dll 9.0.21022.8
MSVCP90.dll 9.0.21022.8
B.DLL
B.DLL depends on: ( compiled by third party using VS2005 )
WS2_32.dll
KERNEL32.dll
MSVCR80.dll 8.0.50727.4053
MSVCP80.dll 8.0.50727.4053
In my installer I'm currently using the microsoft merge modules to deploy the
c/c++ 8/9 dll's to winsxs. Here's where it get's interesting: If I open
B.DLL in depends it resolves all DLL's. If I open A.DLL in depends it resolves
A's dependencies but for B it says that it can't find the MSVCR80 or MSVCP80.
If I copy these two DLL's into the application directory it finds them ( even
if it's the wrong version ).
I have a hunch what's going on here but I'd really hope that someone who really
understands it could lead me to enlightenment and best practices for this type
of problem.
Thanks,
Chris
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