OK, let me know if I got the concept now.
Here's what I did...
Made sure OURVERSION property was added to SecureCustomProperties.
Created Two Deferred Custom Actions...
One passes [OURVERSION] as a command line parameter for an .exe.
The other uses VBScript to display Session.Property("OURVERSION")
The action that passed the property as a parameter worked OK, but using
Session.Property returned nothing.
So, I use SecureCustomProperties to pass the desired values to the Execute
Sequence. These values can be passed to Custom Actions through command line
parameters, for example. If the internal workings of a Custom Action need to
reference session information, CustomActionData must be used. So in the above
script example, Session.Property("CustomActionData") could be grabbed and
parsed if needed as this is still available in that scenario (along with
ProductCode and UserID).
Is that an accurate summation? Thanks for all of the guidance and education on
this!!
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From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:10 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users]Command LineParameterstoDeferred CustomAction on Vista
More generally, you potentially won't be able to access that property at all in
any way in the execute sequence unless it is in SecureCustomProperties. It's
really nothing to do with whether you need it in a custom action or not. There
seems to be an assumption that the only reason you need properties passed into
the execute sequence is so that you can pass them to (deferred) custom actions.
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From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:41 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Command LineParameterstoDeferred CustomAction on Vista
I believe that is correct. I believe this is the sole purpose of the
SecureCustomProperties property.
If you do not pass the data via CustomActionData *and* you do not add the
property to SecureCustomProperties, then you will _not_ have access to that
data in any way in the deferred custom action.
If you add the property to SecureCustomProperties, then you can access the data
via the standard mechanisms for getting property values. The only properties
you can access are the ones listed in SecureCustomProperties and a handful of
others that are added by default by Windows Installer, check the SDK
documentation for details.
If you add the data to CustomActionData, then you'll be able to access it via
the CustomActionData mechanism in the deferred custom action.
If you do both, then you'll have access to the data via both mechanisms.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Walker [mailto:matt.wal...@synergis.com]
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> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Command LineParameterstoDeferred
> CustomAction on Vista
>
> So adding the property to SecureCustomProperties also allows access to the
> property value directly at Deferred Action time (as opposed to passing it
> through CustomActionData)?
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WiX-users]Command LineParameterstoDeferred CustomAction
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>
> Imagine that you have table-driven custom action. This custom action would
> need to read the values out of a table to determine what work to do. In this
> scenario you need an immediate custom action which can read the
> appropriate tables and stuff the data into CustomActionData. Then a
> deferred custom action can read the data out of CustomActionData and
> perform the actual work. This two-stage approach is necessary because
> Windows Installer does not allow deferred custom actions to read many of
> the tables in the MSI database. If you written a table-driven custom action
> then you likely also have custom tables which are most definitely not
> available in the deferred custom action.
>
> For very simple deferred custom actions where you only need to pass in a
> very small number data to the deferred custom action, such as a single
> property value, then it would be appropriate to add the property to
> SecureCustomProperties.
>
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> > From: Matt Walker [mailto:matt.wal...@synergis.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:48 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Command LineParameterstoDeferred
> CustomAction
> > on Vista
> >
> > I know how to get stuff to-out of Custom Action Data, but I guess I
> > really would like to know when it is absolutely necessary to use it.
> >
> > From you link with an emphasis on the first part...
> >
> > "Custom actions are run at the end of an installation and cannot
> > access information about the installation; the CustomActionData
> > property allows you to store information about the installation that
> > can be read by the custom action."
> >
> > I guess my question boils down to... why do I NOT have to store the
> > value of my public property from the Property Table (and not set in
> > any way via the
> > UI) in CustomActionData? I can access the original property and its
> > value fine with my Deferred action that is run in System Context.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Matt Walker
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> > From: Chad Petersen [mailto:chad.peter...@harlandfs.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:27 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Command LineParameterstoDeferred
> CustomAction
> > on Vista
> >
> > CustomActionData is that magical packet of information passed from the
> > installer to your deferred CustomAction using the Value= attribute.
> >
> > Then, your .exe (or VBScript or Javascript) has to set a variable to
> > the value of Session.Property("CustomActionData"); so it gets a copy
> > of this information to use.
> >
> > This info might help a little
> >
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/2w2fhwzz(VS.71).aspx
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Walker [mailto:matt.wal...@synergis.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:07 AM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Command Line ParameterstoDeferred
> > CustomAction on Vista
> >
> > I guess I'm still a little foggy on it so I'll keep digging. If
> > CustomActionData is needed to get values to Deferred Custom Actions,
> > how then is my property value, populated in the Property Table,
> > getting to my deferred action? In addition to having the property
> > pre-populated in the table, I also added it to SecureCustomProperties.
> > However I'm not using the Set Directory CA mechanism to get the value to
> CustomActionData.
> >
> > I don't know if I mentioned this before, but my Deferred Custom Action
> > fires an .exe stored in the Binary Table with the following command
> > line parameters being passed [ProductCode] [OURVERSION], the later
> > being the pre-populated property.
> >
> > I don't know why, but I can't seem to get a handle on this! :(
> >
> >
> > Matt Walker
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> > From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:52 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Command Line Parameters toDeferred
> > CustomAction on Vista
> >
> > They are still two separate items. SecureCustomProperties is need if
> > you want to pass properties from the UI to the execute sequence,
> > whether they get passed to custom actions or not. If you pass them to
> > a immediate custom actions there's no need to use CustomActionData. So
> > if you wanted to collect a property value in the UI sequence AND pass
> > it to a deferred custom action then you'd need to use SCP to get it
> > into the execute sequence AND use CustomActionData to pass it to a
> deferred custom action.
> >
> > You might be thinking that CustomActionData is a single property, but it's
> not.
> > Every deferred custom action can have its own CustomActionData
> > associated with it. Yes, it's used to pass property values into deferred
> custom actions.
> > You simply cannot directly get property values in deferred custom
> > actions, that's what CustomActionData is for.
> >
> > There'a a paragraph or two at the end here
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en- us/library/aa370543(VS.85).aspx
> >
> > Phil Wilson
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Walker [mailto:matt.wal...@synergis.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:45 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Command Line Parameters to Deferred
> > CustomAction on Vista
> >
> > Since both worked in my scenario, I still, really don't know the difference.
> >
> > When you say SCPs is used to pass property values to the execute
> > sequence, does that include access during or for deferred custom
> > actions? Or, is CAD used to pass information to the deferred actions?
> >
> > Would there be a good example to illustrate the need for the use of
> > CustomActionData where simply adding a property to
> > SecureCustomProperties would not provide access during the deferred
> > sequence?
> >
> > Any further help greatly appreciated.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 5:17 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Command Line Parameters to Deferred
> > CustomAction on Vista
> >
> > Briefly, CustomActionData is a parameter passing scheme to get
> > property values passed to a deferred custom action.
> > SecureCustomProperties is a list of properties that you want to pass
> > from the UI sequence (where you probably collected their values)
> > across the context boundary into the execute sequence.
> >
> > Phil Wilson
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Superfreak3 [mailto:matt.wal...@synergis.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:59 AM
> > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Command Line Parameters to Deferred Custom
> > Action on Vista
> >
> >
> > So what exactly is the difference between SecureCustomProperties and
> > CustomActionData? I still do not fully understand this.
> >
> > We have a public property that holds a string that we write to the
> > registry in certain cases. Is is held in the Property table. Let's
> > say it contains
> > 8.1.2.3 and is called OURVERSION.
> >
> > I have a little widget that runs near the end of the install that
> > tests the condition for the registry edit and edits accordingly. I
> > used a Set Property custom action sequenced in the Immediate Sequence
> > to set the above mentioned property to something like PASSDATAACTION.
> >
> > Then, in the Deferrec Sequence action, I reference CustomActionData
> > that now holds the value I passed. All seems to work OK here.
> >
> > I then thought, lets add the original property, OURVERSION, to
> > SecureCustomProperties and just reference that directly as a parameter
> > in my Deferred action, guess what. This works too.
> >
> > So, I'm unclear as to the true purpose of each.
> >
> > I know this really is off WiX topic, but I've gotten great help here
> > before so any now is greatly appreciated. The scenario described
> > above may not be exactly what is going on, but just to give an
> > example.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help!!
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