Except when they are called by a ControlEvent. :-)

It looks to me that the C#/DTF custom action has some initialization to 
called session.Log().   This would be easy enough to tell by using WinZip 
to extract the assembly from the self extract custom action ( foo.dll from 
foo.ca.dll )  and then decompile it using a program like RedGate 
Reflector.

----------------------------------------
 From: "Phil Wilson" <phil.wil...@mvps.org>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 12:40 PM
To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." 
<wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in MSI log 
file

...and at the risk of stating the obvious, custom actions can put messages
in the MSI log by calling MsiProcessMessage(). That's a good thing of
course, except when it gives away secrets ;)

Phil 

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phil.wil...@mvps.org] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 10:22 AM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in MSI log 
file

Well it's not "their" CA, it's DTF, so they or I can't answer the question
directly, but it just seems that DTF is logging the connection string,
however it gets it. 

Phil  

-----Original Message-----
From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:56 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in MSI log 
file

Are they setting a property within their CA called ConnectionString?

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phil.wil...@mvps.org]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:48 AM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in MSI log 
file

In context, that full log entry was previously posted as:
===========================================
Action start 17:26:56: InstallFinalize.
SFXCA: Extracting custom action to temporary directory:
C:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI1045.tmp-\
SFXCA: Binding to CLR version v2.0.50727 Calling custom action
DatabaseCA!DatabaseCA.CustomActions.DatabaseCA

Begin DatabaseCA

Connecton String: Data Source=source;Packet
Size=4096;Uid=sqluser;Pwd=mypassword
=========================================

Whicc is DTF doing the logging, methinks. Jeremiahf didn't show all the 
data
in that recent reply, so without the SFXCA prefix it is misleading. 

Phil 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremiahf [mailto:jeremi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:08 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in MSI log 
file

Hi Rob,

I'm pretty certain it is the installer logging what the custom action is
doing. I ran the installer in verbose mode and noticed the password and
server parameters were not being displayed in plain text.
MSI (c) (A8:F8) [09:58:01:363]: Command Line: USERNAME=sa
PASSWORD=********** SERVER=**********
Then when my custom action is called it is logging sql connection string 
in
plain text.
Begin DatabaseCA
Connecton String: Data Source=source;Packet Size=4096;Uid=sqluser;Pwd=
mypassword

J

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com> 
wrote:

> Is the message showing the password actually being logged by the 
> custom action itself?
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Jeremiahf <jeremi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Steven,
> >
> > "Tried adding: HideTarget="yes" that didn't help" Indeed!
> >
> > I'm even tried to remove logging from the custom action and I still 
> > see
> the
> > password...
> > I've even checked MsiHiddenProperties and see that PASSWORD is 
> > listed
> along
> > with CA_DBAction... Not in SecureCustomProperties... I added
secure="yes"
> > and now it is there.. Execute the installer with logging and it is 
> > still unsecure in plain text in the log. It must be between the MSI 
> > installer
> and
> > the SQL connection that is being made. Thoughts?
> >
> > J
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steven Ogilvie 
> > <steven.ogil...@titus.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I was not using managed code custom actions...
> > >
> > > I was doing:
> > > <Property Id="WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD" Hidden="yes" Secure="yes"/>
> > >
> > > <CustomAction Id="CA_WebAppPoolPassword.SetProperty"
> > > Property="CA_WebAppPoolPassword."
> > > Value="WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD=[WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD]"/>
> > > Tried adding: HideTarget="yes" that didn't help 
> > > <InstallExecuteSequence>
> > >   <Custom Action="CA_WebAppPoolPassword.SetProperty"
> > > After="CA_DataBasePassword.SetProperty">NOT Installed</Custom>
> > >
> > > This property was in a custom dialog:
> > > <Control Id="labelPassword" Type="Text" Height="15" Width="152" 
X="17"
> > > Y="152" Text="Web App Pool user password:" Transparent="yes"
> > NoPrefix="yes"
> > > />
> > > <Control Id="textBoxPassword" Type="Edit" Height="15" Width="177"
> X="180"
> > > Y="152" Property="WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD" Password="yes" TabSkip="no" 
> > > /> <Publish Property="WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD"
Value="[WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD]"
> > > Order="9">1</Publish>
> > >
> > > It was the custom action " CA_WebAppPoolPassword.SetProperty " 
> > > that was displaying the property in the MSI log file.
> > >
> > > Took it out and now the password is not being displayed in plain
> > letters...
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phil.wil...@mvps.org]
> > > Sent: May-03-13 2:27 PM
> > > To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
> > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in 
> > > MSI log file
> > >
> > > The way it works in MSI isn't really mysterious. Basically the 
> > > property name needs to be public (and that means it must be all 
> > > uppercase). If
> WiX
> > > does its thing properly then you can open the generated MSI file 
> > > with
> an
> > > editor such as Orca, look in the Properties table, and in the 
> > > Property table there'll be a SecureCustomProperties property and 
> > > your property
> > name
> > > will be in that list.
> > >
> > > This works. If it didn't work then Microsoft would be all over it 
> > > as a security bug.
> > >
> > > Generally speaking, people get account passwords from a MSI dialog 
> > > and store it in a property such as MYPASSWORD, and then pass it to 
> > > a custom action that uses it.
> > >
> > > However, you're using managed code custom actions, and it seems 
> > > from
> the
> > > log that the (DTF?) code just does its own logging into the MSI 
> > > log
> > without
> > > caring whether there's a password in there. So it may be a DTF 
> > > thing,
> not
> > > sure, and if it is then HideTarget etc won't help at all. The 
> > > short
> > answer
> > > is that if the DTF code is logging a connection string that 
> > > typically contains a password, then it probably shouldn't.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeremiahf [mailto:jeremi...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:17 PM
> > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in 
> > > MSI log file
> > >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > My requirements are strictly to use command line. Crazy? Maybe. I 
> > > have
> to
> > > say I have seen this topic all over blogs. Seems like there is 
> > > always a way, you just have to figure out how....
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Steven Ogilvie
> > > <steven.ogil...@titus.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hmm... I commented out my custom action that sets the property:
> > > > <!--<CustomAction Id="CA_WebAppPoolPassword.SetProperty"
> > HideTarget="yes"
> > > > Property="CA_WebAppPoolPassword."
> > > > Value="WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD=[WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD]"/>-->
> > > >
> > > > And ran the install, everything worked and my Web App Pool + Web 
> > > > site launched without errors (would have failed if I didn't have 
> > > > a
> password
> > > > for the Web App Pool)
> > > >
> > > > However I do publish the property during the UI:
> > > > <Publish Property="WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD"
Value="[WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD]"
> > > > Order="9">1</Publish> (my web site info dialog page during
> > > > install)
> > > >
> > > > I checked my MSI log file and there wasn't any viewable strings 
> > > > for the WebAppPool_Password it was all: WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD 
> > > > property. Its value is '**********'
> > > >
> > > > Publish your password within the UI area and see if that works...
> > > > (also commenting out your custom action to set the property
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeremiahf [mailto:jeremi...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: May-02-13 6:29 PM
> > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in MSI log 
> > > > file
> > > >
> > > > Sure thing...
> > > >
> > > > Action start 17:26:56: CA_DBAction.
> > > > Action ended 17:26:56: CA_DBAction. Return value 1.
> > > > Action start 17:26:56: InstallFinalize.
> > > > SFXCA: Extracting custom action to temporary directory:
> > > > C:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI1045.tmp-\
> > > > SFXCA: Binding to CLR version v2.0.50727 Calling custom action 
> > > > DatabaseCA!DatabaseCA.CustomActions.DatabaseCA
> > > > Begin DatabaseCA
> > > > Connecton String: Data Source=source;Packet 
> > > > Size=4096;Uid=sqluser;Pwd=mypassword
> > > >
> > > > I as well have a custom action and HideTarget does nothing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Chad Petersen
> > > > <chad.peter...@harlandfs.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If possible paste in a snippet of your log file around where 
> > > > > the password is seen. I tried for a long time to hide 
> > > > > passwords using the
> > > > same method.
> > > > > But it was some built-in custom actions that were logging my 
> > > > > passwords rather than code I'd written myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > <Property Id="ConfigureIIsExec" Hidden="yes"/> <Property 
> > > > > Id="ExecuteSqlStrings" Hidden="yes"/>
> > > > >
> > > > > These were two entries that I made to make those extensions 
> > > > > hide
> the
> > > > > data passed to them, such as my password.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jeremiahf [mailto:jeremi...@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 2:38 PM
> > > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in MSI log 
> > > > > file
> > > > >
> > > > > I have tried that and no luck. My MSI is installed via command
> line.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've even tried to give the property Id a value in case I 
> > > > > missed something and still doesn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > <Property Id="PASSWORD" Value="password" Hidden="yes" 
Secure="yes"
> > > > > />
> > > > >
> > > > > My test system is running Server 2003 R2 SP 2 windows 
> > > > > installer version
> > > > > 4.5 6001.22159
> > > > >
> > > > > I've upgraded from WIX 3.6 TO 3.7 in case it was a bug as I 
> > > > > have found in hundreds of blogs online but every time I see 
> > > > > that a fix was submitted, I can't tell what version it was
submitted in.
> (sorry
> > > > > for the run on
> > > > > sentence.)
> > > > >
> > > > > J
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Steven Ogilvie 
> > > > > <steven.ogil...@titus.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I declare the property:
> > > > > > <Property Id="WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD" Hidden="yes" 
> > > > > > Secure="yes"/> This is how I use my password controls:
> > > > > > <Control Id="textBoxPassword" Type="Edit" Height="15"
Width="177"
> > > > X="180"
> > > > > > Y="152" Property="WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD" Password="yes"
> TabSkip="no"
> > > > > > />
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Logfile:
> > > > > > MSI (c) (70:1C) [14:50:59:778]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding 
> > > > > > WEBAPPPOOL_PASSWORD property. Its value is '**********'
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Jeremiahf [mailto:jeremi...@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: May-02-13 5:08 PM
> > > > > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > > Subject: [WiX-users] Hide/blank out Passwords in MSI log 
> > > > > > file
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone had luck with this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have tried using Hidden, HideTarget  and I still see the 
> > > > > > password in my logs. Is this still a bug in windows installer?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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