I'm not terribly happy with any of the options available today.

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Christopher Painter <chr...@iswix.com>wrote:

> Thanks Rob.  Are there any other non-MSI based approaches that you feel may
> be worthy of consideration?
>
> I feel very confident in my ability to deliver an MSI based solution for
> n-Tier ASP.NET solution,  I just want to make sure I'm not ignoring other
> reasonable solutions.
>
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>  From: "Rob Mensching" <r...@robmensching.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:46 AM
> To: "Christopher Painter" <chr...@iswix.com>, "General discussion for
> Windows Installer XML toolset." <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WebDeploy vs MSI
>
>   I dislike WebDeploy for a number of reasons:   0. Fundamentally,
> WebDeploy operates using a "sync" concept. It tries to make a machine look
> like other machines. You can package up a bunch of these settings but it's
> still just applying settings to make the machine look like another. That
> fundamental approach leads to the real issues.   1. The changes are not
> transacted. If WebDeploy fails it leaves your machine in whatever state it
> is halfway through the install. You have to keep banging on install and
> hope it completes or deal with the halfway state. There isn't anyway to go
> back to the way it was (that you can get with a properly written .msi
> file).   2. There is no indication that a piece of software is installed.
> WebDeploy doesn't register anything anywhere. Wondering later what software
> is on the machine? Uhh, do a "human-based appsearch" to inspect the machine
> and guess. <smile/>   Those are the things I can think of this morning.
> I've used WebDeploy to post to my cheap ISP and have hit the above issues.
> The second is less a problem because the apps I'm pushing to my ISP are
> just my tiny apps that only have the "current" version. The first bit me
> though. My site was offline for quite a while one day as I tried to bang
> through a WebDeploy because some FTP component running on the server kept
> locking one of the files it wanted to deploy. WebDeploy just kept choking
> on the file in use... eventually they rebooted the server (did I mention it
> is a cheap ISP?) and then I could finish my WebDeploy.   That said, with
> cloud machine images being treated like throwaway parts, some people don't
> care about the issues above and are happy to just start over when anything
> goes wrong. Personally, I still prefer a bit more knowledge and ability to
> verify that something went wrong before brining the images online but
> that's just me.
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Painter <chr...@iswix.com>
> wrote:
> A question for the group, and Rob,
>
> I've been a big believer in MSI for 10 years now.  If you were looking at
> deploying ASP.NET apps to an AWS environment,  would you still package the
> app as an MSI or would you consider another paradigm such as WebDeploy?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
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