I'm not terribly happy with any of the options available today.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Christopher Painter <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Rob. Are there any other non-MSI based approaches that you feel may > be worthy of consideration? > > I feel very confident in my ability to deliver an MSI based solution for > n-Tier ASP.NET solution, I just want to make sure I'm not ignoring other > reasonable solutions. > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Rob Mensching" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:46 AM > To: "Christopher Painter" <[email protected]>, "General discussion for > Windows Installer XML toolset." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WebDeploy vs MSI > > I dislike WebDeploy for a number of reasons: 0. Fundamentally, > WebDeploy operates using a "sync" concept. It tries to make a machine look > like other machines. You can package up a bunch of these settings but it's > still just applying settings to make the machine look like another. That > fundamental approach leads to the real issues. 1. The changes are not > transacted. If WebDeploy fails it leaves your machine in whatever state it > is halfway through the install. You have to keep banging on install and > hope it completes or deal with the halfway state. There isn't anyway to go > back to the way it was (that you can get with a properly written .msi > file). 2. There is no indication that a piece of software is installed. > WebDeploy doesn't register anything anywhere. Wondering later what software > is on the machine? Uhh, do a "human-based appsearch" to inspect the machine > and guess. <smile/> Those are the things I can think of this morning. > I've used WebDeploy to post to my cheap ISP and have hit the above issues. > The second is less a problem because the apps I'm pushing to my ISP are > just my tiny apps that only have the "current" version. The first bit me > though. My site was offline for quite a while one day as I tried to bang > through a WebDeploy because some FTP component running on the server kept > locking one of the files it wanted to deploy. WebDeploy just kept choking > on the file in use... eventually they rebooted the server (did I mention it > is a cheap ISP?) and then I could finish my WebDeploy. That said, with > cloud machine images being treated like throwaway parts, some people don't > care about the issues above and are happy to just start over when anything > goes wrong. Personally, I still prefer a bit more knowledge and ability to > verify that something went wrong before brining the images online but > that's just me. > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Painter <[email protected]> > wrote: > A question for the group, and Rob, > > I've been a big believer in MSI for 10 years now. If you were looking at > deploying ASP.NET apps to an AWS environment, would you still package the > app as an MSI or would you consider another paradigm such as WebDeploy? > > Thanks, > Chris > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and > their applications. This 200-page book is written by three acclaimed > leaders in the field. The early access version is available now. > Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/neotech_d2d_may > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and > their applications. This 200-page book is written by three acclaimed > leaders in the field. The early access version is available now. > Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/neotech_d2d_may > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. This 200-page book is written by three acclaimed leaders in the field. The early access version is available now. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/neotech_d2d_may _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
