John, Lawrence,
Thank you for your replies.  I'll try to take a deeper look at assertion
implementation and see how it goes.

Thanks for the links to the Wiki pages.  The one on WSDLExtensions has been
very useful to me in the past, but it could benefit from an update (it still
says that the HTTP binding has not been done).  It would also be valuable
for it to mention the ExtensionRegistrar mechanism.  That will be helpful
for the next person who's interested in extending Woden.

Thanks for all your efforts.

Peter


On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:12 AM, John Kaputin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lawrence,
> sorry, I just replied to Peter before I noticed you had already replied.
>
> John Kaputin
>
>
> Lawrence Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 20/03/2008 00:51:18:
>
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > The validation framework is indeed at an early stage and we're working
> out
> > some details while implementing assertions. I think your statement about
>
> > assertions that require checks of multiple elements int he WSDL document
>
> > is correct. Your example with binding and interface is my current
> thinking
> > about these types of assertions.
> >
> > I captured some of our initial ideas about the validation API that we're
>
> > working off of at [1]. Information about Woden extensions other than the
>
> > validation extension can be found at [2].
> >
> > Does this information answer your questions?
> >
> > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/Woden/ValidationAPI
> > [2] http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/Woden/WSDLExtensions
> >
> > Lawrence
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Peter Danielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 03/19/2008 07:24 PM
> > Please respond to
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> > To
> > [email protected]
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > Assertions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm curious about the stability of the Assertion design in Woden.
> >
> > I've been looking at it from the point of view of an extension and I
> think
> > this is the procedure:
> >
> > 1. Create a class that implements
> > org.apache.woden.wsdl20.validation.Assertion
> > for each class that is affected by an assertion.
> >   a. Implement "getId()"
> >   b. Implement "validate(Object, WodenContext)"
> >
> > 2. Register each Assertion class by calling
> > ExtensionRegistry.registerAssertion passing an instance of the Assertion
>
> > class and the affected class. This would likely be done from an
> > ExtensionRegistrar.
> >
> > That seems reasonable, but the reason I asked about the stability is
> that
> > when I look at the validate method of
> > org.apache.woden.internal.wsdl20.validation.WSDLValidator
> > I see that it's not checking assertions on Binding or Service elements.
> > Their absence made me wonder whether this is still in an early design
> > stage?
> >
> > Also, I'm assuming that cross-checks between elements (e.g. <interface>
> > and <binding> ) will be the responsibility of the "more detailed"
> element
> > (<binding> in this case) and that that element's Assertion may require
> > navigation of the containing elements to do its work.  Is that correct?
> >
> > Any references or explanations on the conventions and use of Assertions
> > would be very useful.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
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