It would be interesting, some time or other, to submit the _same_ work under two different names to the New Yorker, for example - to see if the return are consistent, or if the 'plagiarism' (?) would be caught!

- Alan


On Sun, 8 May 2005, Gregory Severance wrote:

On Sunday, May 8, 2005, at 01:22 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
Wonder if including the note would create intellectual property issues in the minds of conservative editors?


I imagine it would. If I were savvy, I wouldn't submit to conservative editors. I have a series of these where the second of three sections is composed of a converted "New Yorker poem". I think I'll do both: submit some with a note and some without a note. - Gregory Severance



It's a moot and maybe silly point. I love the parasitic quality of conversion - Alan


On Sat, 7 May 2005, Gregory Severance wrote:

Untitled 4
1.
All right site to site and from site to site and from door to door. Please oh please decide that and that and that at once. Define that game of define that game they would definitely love that and walk in the park with them. All right always all right always a pleasure to decide it. They walk up the sidewalk with them from site to site. Decide that they would walk up and on the sidewalk with them from site to the site to site to site to site.
2.
A at bare black-nosed blood by cardinal’s cheats cocked comes could cut dangles dangling deck earring fallen Fano fire fortunes from girl gray hat her hillside how I if in it lapdog leaves lips lobe love mouth nipple not of on one or out outside painting pooched-out red Renoir remembering ribbon right rouged said silky smudge straw sudden summer Tarot the until welling who wind-struck winter wiry with woman woods you.
3.
They would always always walk up and down the street from door to door. It is always a pleasure to serve that. And they would definitely like it like it like it. At once. Walk in the door from the sidewalk and play game of describe it describe it. With them walk indoors through it and with them describe it and decide that and that. Play game of reconstruct it they would like game of reconstruct that.


Note: Section 2 is composed of the vocabulary from the poem: Robert Haas, “The Problem of Describing Color,” The New Yorker, 25 April 2005, 77.

http://www.santababylonia.net/untitled4N-w.pdf - with Note
http://www.santababylonia.net/untitled4-w.pdf - without Note

I'm of two minds on whether to include the Note when submitting this poem to editors for publication. One mind enjoys the sneakiness of not including it. The other mind wishes to invoke the intertextuality and constructionism of including the Note.

WHERE I'M COMING FROM:

Sondheim's recent "apoplexy" post to the Poetics list motivated me to get back over here to wryting-l.

I've been on various lists (beat-l, poetics, bohemian-l, invent-l, intertheory, wryting-l), some now defunct, off and on, mostly lurking, since 1997, so I'm familiar with many on this list.

I live in New York City and my day job is Network Architect for a large magazine publishing conglomerate. I've had poems appear in Peter Ganick's POTEPOETZINESEVENTEEN (1999) and in ~Coffeehouse: Writings from the Web~ eds. Levi Asher and Christian Crumlish (Manning, 1997).

Gregory Severance



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