holzer's work: "thousands of people have seen it" - this is why mark's procedure is interesting. thousands of people see the image google hits that holzer's words are pulling up. would the rebi placed on billboards have the same effect as the original holzer pieces? not that they should, but the differential could be telling.
jUStin On 7/18/05, Lanny Quarles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the flatness is intentional in Holzer. This isn't "literary" work.. > Much of it > involves context and as well a kind of stylisation of affect, there's no > ostranenie, > of any of the tropes of modernist or pomo or language poetry, but something > closer to a detourning of the > language of advertising. The superficiality of the text is its ironic > content.. > You have to imagine also, that there is a sort of populism at work here, as > well > as an attempt to produce something akin to reverse propaganda. > Perhaps the work is weak. Who knows? What you must know is that thousands > of people have seen it, and so it is something which has had a kind of iconic > presence, > but which may be nothing more than a symbol of the bread and circuses era of > american art > called the eighties along w/ keith haring, julian schnabel, and the rest of > the pomo art-star coolcats > we all idolized in art school. But then again Joel, you might just be a > snob... don't take that the wrong > way. I love snobs! :) > > lq > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Weishaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca> > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:36 PM > Subject: Re: Rebus 01 > > > > Holtzer gave a lecture at The University of New Mexico when I was a curator > > at the Art Museum there. Frankly, I found her work superficial, with no more > > depth of language or ideas than the Evening News. But I may be in the > > minority here. > > > > -Joel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lanny R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca> > > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:43 PM > > Subject: Re: Rebus 01 > > > > > > I have seen a large room done by Holzer at the DMA but none of the > > outdoor or in situ public works. She was an inspiration when I was > > a 19yr old college student studying video and computer art in the 80's > > on the Amiga at UTA in Arlington. We all liked to do little text > > scrolling pieces which were take-offs of her sign work. > > > > the piece itself is an essay in the material transduction of > > language within the domain of culture-as-code. through this > > kind of gesture mark is able to realize pierce's indexicality > > or thirdness, of language. by grounding the mechanics of > > referentiality within the instrumentality of code, we are able > > to not only grasp concretely the materiality of language but > > the pervasive cultural paradigms which haunt our every thought > > once it has become externalized and entered into the eternal > > circulation of images which has become capitalism's informatic schitzo- > > polis. I thinks its an excellent little bit of conceptual formalism. > > very "cleanly" cut parameters, as usual w/ mark. > > > > lq > > > > > > > >> considering the public spaces that holtzer's truisms occup(y)ied, the > >> pop nature of these images is very rich. family dog, family photo > >> internet porn, video games . . . > >> > >> what's there not to get? input processed to output. an equation > > right? > >> > >> jUStin > >> > >> On 7/18/05, Joel Weishaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > I don't get this. > >> > But then, I never got Jenny Holtzer either. > >> > > >> > -Joel > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "mwp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca> > >> > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:30 PM > >> > Subject: Rebus 01 > >> > > >> > > >> > Rebus 01 > >> > 2005 > >> > > >> > Words are replaced with the first image that appears in Alltheweb's > >> > image search. If a word appears more than once, the next image in > > the > >> > list is selected so that there is no repetition of images. > >> > > >> > For this initial experiment, I borrow one of Jenny Holzer's most > > famous > >> > Truisms, to see what comes out: > >> > > >> > ABUSE OF POWER COMES AS NO SURPRISE > >> > > >> > http://www.kunst.no/bjornmag/mpphp2004/abuseofpowercomes.jpg > >> > > >> > > >> > mwp > >> > > >> > > >
