Alan's words
I spoke, speak, divide, the path deride, write into night, wryte into nyght, caught: pre-war history, pre-wars history, warez-history, oh for that memory once again, code-memory, memory of code, memory of code of memory here in West Virginia, crickets singing, they will sing beyond me beyond my body's reach, arms', hands', fingers' reach a sudden gasp of breath, I will be gone my words broken, broken up used by strangers some people some people have other purposes I wait for death like others wait for dawn wait for dawn's death, death's dawn, dusk of death, death of dusk, litany of beyond, storm-code memory, who owns Alan's words reorders Alan's words claims them, takes them even now, what comes out of my mouth is no longer mine ======================================================================= Text from Cybermind Conference - Log - 1996, Perth, Australia Martin says, "we're close to beginning here..." bree has disconnected. Martin says, "What I would like is a discussion behind me on the screen dealing with netsex, and I may be able to interact - I'll let you know when - you don' t need to talk at all about this if you don't want, but it would add/resonate w / the presen- tation which is going to be pretty chaotic." Raxcip says, "sure, I will listen and play." A very large pelican scoops bree up in its enormous beak and flies off to drop her in bed. Dria says, "um...I'll add stuff If I have anything to say (I usually do ;)" Ghost nods. Martin says, "stay on here - going off for about 30 seconds... - please stay on " Ghost says, "Standing by.." Martin asks, "hello?" Martin sighs. Martin cheers wildly. Ghost smirks. Dria does a little dance Ghost stomps a rhythm Raxcip asks, "just a cyber-type observation... Does anyone else find it odd ho w easy it is to tell Alan from martin, even though they are sharing a name?" Alan has @joined you. Raxcip says, "Welcome, Alan." Dria says, "Personalities come across really well, I find. Esp. if the person can write." Alan says, "Im on as Alan now - and I think that Martin is on the other screen. .." Alan says, "Please hang in there..." Raxcip says, "yes, I suppose." Dria says, "hanging." Raxcip says, "on" Ghost says, "there." Dria says, "stage fright :>" Apocryphal says, "indeed, Dria..." Dria says, "ah...I should get a gin&tonic." Raxcip cracks open a beer... Dria says, "brb" Apocryphal puffs on a mellow cigar Alan says, "Okay we're on - " Martin reconnects. Alan says, "Richard MacKinnon is going to type for me --" Martin exclaims, "Whee!" Dria laughs Martin exclaims, "I can do the minutes here!" Raxcip says, "it only seems like minutes.. Its hours." Alan says, "Alan wants a minute by minute countdown." Dria says, "okay, you're hired ;)" Alan says, "Alan wants us to discuss what netsex might be." Ghost drops its drawers.. Raxcip says, "I thouth we were byond *that* point..." Martin says, "Alan went to "Hot Horny Bitches" because someone asked him to" Alan asks, "What do you mean Raxcip?" Ghost asks, "Not stimulating enough here?" Dria says, "Well, the mind is the most important sexual organ. Take away all t he other senses, and those which remain are heightened. That's what it's all a bout. :)" Raxcip says, "the general definition.." Alan exclaims, "Hey Martin I didn't realize that you were here!" Martin says, "Alan is talking about "wryting" as the ontological component to w riting ..." Martin says, "Well now you do .." Martin says, "We can take turns transcribing Alan ..." Martin exclaims, "Netsex sounds .... aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh zzzzzzzzzzz m mmmmmmmmmm m m mm m m m erghhhhh h h wheeeeee!" Dria laughs zone has entered Conference Room. Alan asks, "Dria . . . are you saying that mind-impoverished beings cannot have sex?" Martin says, "oog" zone laughs Dria says, "I find the silences during are more expressive :)" zone loves it Ghost exclaims, "Oh baby!" Dria says, "mind-impoverished? Uhm...yes, I guess I am." Dria says, "depends what that means, of course" zone cracks up Alan says, "Dria, well then it seems to me that one doesn't need much of a mind to be silent. Perhaps you should consider hooking up with a rock." Martin says, "Alan is talkig about hesiataions and backtracking and erasuresd . .." Raxcip says, "Yes, Its interesting to think of the other when there not typing. .." Alan says, "Oh I see . . . then it's not the *silence* which is poignant, but t he thoughts resulting from the silence." Speaker fades in from Entry Point and joins you. Ghost says, "writing Alan talking about writing erasures.." Speaker says, "I'll be Alan's words ..." Speaker says, "Martin typing them ..." Martin says, "yeah" Raxcip says, "or, the silences translate to RL " Dria says, "typing takes a certain concentration...if you're otherwise occupied , it becomes secondary :)" Speaker says, "One case which resulted in netsex that recuperated a married wom an ..." Ghost says, "Good argument for CUseeme.." Alan says, "That's interesting. Fanny, mentioned to me that the VR impressions made on her--particularly the romantic kind--seem to linger into the real worl d." zone manifests a spontaneously generated tatoo on her inner arm which reads: wo rds are sex Martin says, "Sounds being recorded ... we'll put up the realaudio up later ... " Dria says, "excellent argument for CUseeme...but that changes the situation, re ally. It's not as much connected to mind...it becomes also visual." Alan says, "Of course, this "lingering" phenomenon is often characterized by si lence, especially when a person has logged off." Speaker says, "At times netsex can be completely overwhelming ... " Goatium_Guest fades in from Entry Point and joins you. Speaker says, "Part of it the 'command structure' ..." Ghost moans Speaker says, "The ASCII unconcoous ..." Speaker says, "ignore my spelling" Alan asks, "If the mind is the primary sexual organ, then what is the differenc e between net.sex and physical sex?" zone smiles Dria says, "raw, digitized self, expressed. It's very different." Speaker says, ""I can't type half as fast as Alan, even though I do it for a li ving ..." Raxcip says, "net.sex leaves you alone, untouched." Alan says, "Hmmm....this implies that a virtual body is available to virtual lo vers." Dria says, "untrue...emotions are of mind...I can be 'touched' emotionally...of ten with greater effect." Goatium_Guest has disconnected. The housekeeper arrives to remove Goatium_Guest. Speaker says, "text emerges as parts of past, childhood ... interjections ... s natches that are not normally given voice to ..." Dria says, "it's a more intellecutal intercourse." Raxcip says, "Yes, but I decided I could no longer have netsex. it left me fee ling too alone, too sad." Alan says, "Yes, but even your desire to use the wor....er...word "touched" imp lies that a sort of "body" is produced-- whether emotional or textual." Speaker says, ""Part objects .." zone . o O (...duly noted use of the word "snatch") Dria says, "it's not a replacement, but an enhancement" Martin says, "Snatch was my word .." zone . o O (...duly noted use of the word "intercourse") Martin apologises. zone laughs Dria did that on purpose ;> zone nods to Dria Alan says, "Yep. I think's that's true to a point...but it's even more than an enhancement. I think it is an alterate, but not necessarily one that replaces ." Martin catches the odd drop from Alan's verbal waterfall ... zone smiles at Martin zone loves it Alan hands Martin a bucket Speaker says, """The power of Netsex ... not trivial ..." Speaker says, "Joining subjects across the wall of language .." Speaker says, "defining ... truth ... idea of true speech and the genuine other .." Speaker says, "primordial objectivity ... " Alan asks, "Dria, you said that you think the "touching" in VR is an enhancemen t of physical touching. This implies that the former is better than the latter . Do you really believe this?" Dria says, "netsex allows us to explore, to investigate, to experiment...with o nly minor risk, compared to rl...it's a new form of fulfillment...we are only b eginning to explore the possiblities" Speaker says, "kant ..." Speaker says, "Questions about Kant ..." Martin exclaims, "Bucket!?!?!" Alan asks, "What's a matter, Martin? Is a bucket not large enough to catch dro ps from Alan's waterfall?" Dria says, "enhancement...not 'better', just...different...often 'worse'...but it's something new, and powerful, which affects profoundly the lives of many pe ople. It cannot be shrugged off as inconsequential" Speaker says, "A state of primitive fusion and confusion .." Speaker says, "Temptation of St Antoine .." Ghost says, "No one's mentioned gender yet.." Speaker says, "Cyberspatial buzzing .... huge amounts of ..." Speaker says, "Excretion's featured a few times ... not that zone ..." Speaker says, "not = note" Dria says, "gender becomes ephermal...manipulable...part of the experimentation ." zone nods to Speaker Alan says, "Okay, I'm with you. In the case of "worse," "enhancement" is an od d ...er...odd choice of word. An enhancement which makes something worse is a connotation that is usually reserved for Microsoft :-)" Dria says, "we are who we want to become." Speaker says, "Confusions of identity .... @gender commands ..." Dria laughs Dria says, "perhaps it was a poor choice of word." zone says to Dria, "I agree Dria...but I think it is also an opportunity to bec ome more *who we are*...online serving as a mirror..." Speaker says, "Control faction ... moviong backwards and forwards from the abys ss .." Speaker says, "ss" Dria asks, "what parts of life do *not* serve as mirrors?" Speaker says, "tremendous sexualisaion of the internet as a whole ..." Alan says, "No matter . . . I agree, though . . . the internet allows us to exp lore and experiment with reduced risk, but really though, how much of a risk is afforded. I know that people can really get hurt--which comes as quite a surp rise to them." Dria says, "it's the cultural restrictions which we ahve to deal with in rl." zone says to Dria, "You mentioned this thing about who we want to become...and I was noticing the opposite is also true..." Speaker says, "Most non-moderated spaces show this ..." Dria says, "that's why I said minor risk...the risk exists...the phenomenon of cyberrape...that cannot be overlooked." Speaker says, "Sexualisation ... desires implicit just about everywhere ..." Alan says, "Precisely. We can dump some cultural baggage, but I think people w ho think the net.sex is "safe" are a bit under-net.sex'd." Speaker says, "16 minutes ... 4 to go " Speaker says, "language loses its formal syntactic structure ..." Dria says, "it's safer than rl, imho...injury is of a different nature entirely ." Speaker says, "Raviushment becomes the unravelling of language..." Alan says, "There a plenty of cases where net.sex has penetrated the condom-as- interface and and hit the user right where it hurts." Speaker says, "Woman he knew who would short out the keyboard with her wet hand after coming .." Speaker says, "Streams of characters ..." Speaker says, "fbnu bgyf hgf hgf hf hgbfh jgthrjigbtrubigperhbubhuehtuig bubtg4 75ub4 htgb4 u5tgb4 5ugpbu4pihu5ughbu54ibgutbgubthbgubt " Speaker says, "Ah, tht's better." Alan says, "weroiusc sfdrmss sadfsdflj asdfsdj4r32wq" Raxcip laughs Ghost says to Dria, "psychological hurt is still psychological hurt" Alan shrugs zone says, "seroshlkjlllllll kisslillhh .lkjjiliiiiiiillllmmmmmm" Alan says, "Exactly." Dria says, "as I said, different. " Speaker says, "cu-seeme is more uncanny and disturbing than y-talk ..." Dria asks, "you really can't see the difference in risk?" Speaker says, "Silence of cu-seeme ... uncanny ... uncomfortable ... fascinatin g ... becasue of the faces ..." Speaker says, "faces erupt in different direction .." Alan asks, "Is it possible that a face can be thought of as genitalia?" Speaker says, "recognition ..." Speaker says, "didn't get to death on the internet ..." Dria thinks about Michael. Speaker says, "Tomorrow: Michael Current's fdeath ..." zone says, "le petit mort" Speaker says, "Thankyou ..." Speaker recieves applause .. Raxcip says, "only insomuch as every part of the body is sexual, (faces)" Dria applauds for Alan :) Martin says, "Questions ..." Martin asks, "?" Speaker says, "... cleaning up ..." Ghost goes out through the out door. Alan says, "Stelar laughed at the notion of cleaning up." Alan says, "=c" Dria laughs Alan says, "Apparently in Austrialia, Kant is pronounced "cunt."" Speaker says, ""Jerry asks about Kant ... Alan thought he meant something else ... talking about netsex ..." Speaker says, "It is." Dria bites hir tongue Martin says, "probably for good reason" Speaker says, "carry sexuality beyond what happens in Alan's real life .." Speaker says, "as it becomes more real ... series of exchnages ..." Speaker says, "list ... priovate mail .. ." Speaker says, "more emotional .." Speaker says, "relationshiop ..." Speaker says, "phone call " Speaker says, "phone sex ..." Speaker says, "y-talk ..." Speaker says, "photos ..." Dria nods...got the first phonecall today :> Speaker says, "peices of hair ..." Speaker says, "souvenirs ..." zone smiles Speaker says, "anything ..." Raxcip says, "sextoys..." Speaker says, "Small animals .." Dria laughs Raxcip asks, "?" Alan says, "Panties, panties" Speaker says, "Oh yes, panties ..." Dria says, "oh, don't forget the panties." Speaker says, "That was a typo . ..." Raxcip grins zone says, "oh yeah...and remember panties" Speaker uses the word "coagulation" a lot ... Alan says, "Effluvia and coming together in a matted position." Speaker says, "Question intimates that Jerry ta;ling and Alan typing was like G ilbert and George ..." Alan says, "Group net.sex." Dria thinks...hm, time to break out the erotica ;> Speaker says, "like dria" Speaker licks Dria ever so slowly. Alan says, "Except that the group is one person." Dria freezes, deer in the headlights ;> Dria says, "Yummy" Speaker says, "Richness of net.sex " Speaker says, "Turn off the computer ... left with own reflection in screen ... " Dria says, "the mirror." Apocryphal says, "..." Speaker says, "Different movements ..." Raxcip says, "yes, thats the part I hate. The computer off me alone" Apocryphal says, "or nothing...the matte, blankness" Speaker says, "y-talk is like two bodies separated by ------------------------- ------------------" Dria says, "you just have to understand what it is that you're getting into..." Dria says, "but it is possible to get so much more from it...real love, can gro w out here." Martin says, "Jerry's talking ..." Raxcip says, "yes, of course. " Dria says, "you sound unconvinced. :)" Raxcip says, "My friend was a world away." Dria nods Dria says, "aye...I know what it's like." Alan says, "One of the speakers is talking about how he enjoyed watching the th e screen and Alan and the timekeeping. This, I (Richard) think is an example o f how net.sex affords a greater opportunity for voyeurism." Dria grins Martin grins Raxcip says, "I find it hard to exist both here on teh net and in RL, and wholy give oneself in either space. I choose the Real." Dria says, "I toggle between. I am not real." Alan says, "I choose both. The unreal has been very good to me." zone laughs Martin says, "I really like Ari's presentation ..." Apocryphal says, "it seems..." Raxcip fails to delineate. Alan says, "Jon Marshall is asking about the ethical challenges posed by net.se x." Apocryphal says, "like there's no one-or-the-other each infects the other" Martin says, "The text was most lost on me ... but watching the images of the h ands was definitely affaected by the MOOD of the text ..." Alan says, "Don't forget that the Cathoholic Church has decreed that net.sex is a sin." Dria says, "I walk out into the world 'rl' and I feel...unreal...it is surreal. ..it all feels surreal. I have realized that "I" am not real (to anyone else, at least). So why fight it." zone exclaims, "!!!" zone says, "That is astonishing." Dria says, "you're not serious. You *can't* be serious." Alan is serious Dria boggles Speaker says, "Ari says even email is theatrical .." Apocryphal says, "the screen as contraceptive" Alan says, "Dria, I think in the long-run, this is a great development. With a simple decree, the Church has given credence to cyberlife. That's a good thin g." Raxcip says, "the catholic church would never approve of fun without consequenc e." Dria says, "well, yeah, but. It's still stupid. :>" zone nods. Yes. Calling netsex a sin has in one fell swoop brought it to the attention of the world... Alan says, "Yeah, but I'll take a little near-sightedness with a lot of vision- -even if the vision comes inadvertently." Dria decides to ponder it for a bit before forming a real opinon. Martin asks, "Any questions to ALan?" Martin says, "No" Martin says, "That's it ..." Martin says, "next sesion in 5 minutes .." Alan says, "That's it, and thank you. There's another panel in five minutes and I can possibly work this through as well - not sure what the situation will be ..."