I think you need to remove the default margins on uls. So within; #navcontainer ul, I removed all the margins and added margin: 50px 0 0 0;
*this basically means the same as; margin-top: 50px margin-right: 0 margin-bottom: 0 margin-left: 0; That fixes the problem in ie6, but you get the 3px thing in ie5 still. Sorry I think there is a work around for this somewhere but im not sure, someone on the list might know. For faster hover rollovers, you could use this technique. Place the normal and hover state in one image, and when you use it as a background, just use the background-position property to 'slide' the normal and hover states into view. See this slidingdoors article for a more complete reference. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors/ Hope that helps, Tim Hill Computer Associates Graphic Artist tel: +612 9937 0792 fax: +612 9937 0546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] CSS/XHTML NavBar and IE6 Hello folks, (First post to this excellent list - thanks Russ/Peter for setting me up). I am trying to ditch the HTML tables addiction and keeping to standards-based designs from now on. The annoying thing is I can do this in 30 seconds using the 'old' methods but I'm having problems. I need some guidance on the image navbar where I have used a Eric Meyer CSS-only method for the rollovers (instead of JavaScript code soup). Here's my test page... http://www.skyrocket.com.au/Concepts/Books24x7/index.html Works fine in Mozilla 1.5, Safari 1.0 but using IE6 on a PC there's a gap at the top and bottom of the navbar of maybe 5px. Any ideas why? Also, there is a significant delay on mouseover depending on the browser used. The rollover state doesn't seem to load until a user rolls over the button hot spot. Can this be sped up somehow? Any help appreciated. Regards PAUL ROSS SkyRocket Design Co http://www.skyrocket.com.au ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ ***************************************************** ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *****************************************************