> The kind of clients I get are clients who think this > is a great site > : www.canadianlakes.com.au
And it looks fine, for the kind of site it is. If I had worked on it, it would look almost the same, except it would be valid html and css and it wouldn't use frames. Just because you're building sites in a valid way doesn't mean your pitches to clients or the sites you deliver need to look any different (ok, they will look better, but an untrained eye probably wouldn't notice anything specific, nor should they). K. -- Kay Smoljak Senior Developer/QC Leader/Search Optimisation PerthWeb Pty Ltd - http://www.perthweb.com.au/ Ph: 08 9226 1366 - Fax: 08 9226 1375 ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *****************************************************