Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote:
[quote:]
Separators: in previous versions of HTML, the hr element was used to separate sections of a text from each other. In retrospect, the name hr (for horizontal rule) was badly chosen, because an hr was neither necessarily horizontal (in vertical text it was vertical), nor necessarily a rule (books often use other typographical methods to represent separators, such as a line of three asterisks, and stylesheets can be used to give you this freedom). In order to emphasize its structuring nature, and to make it clearer that it has no essential directionality, hr has been renamed separator. [/quote]
I wasn't disputing whether or not <hr> is semantic or not. I was suggesting that simply saying "the W3C use it on their site" is not an argument that holds too much weight.
[quote] For visual user agents this element [<sup>] would normally be rendered as a super-script of the text baseline, but on user agents where this is not possible (for instance teletype-like devices) other renderings may be used. For instance, 2<sup>n</sup> that would be rendered as 2n on a device that can render it so, might be rendered as 2↑(n) on a simpler device.
Many scripts (e.g., French) require superscripts or subscripts for proper rendering. The sub and sup elements should be used to markup text in these cases.
Examples: E = mc<sup>2</sup>
<span xml:lang="fr">M<sup>lle</sup> Dupont</span>
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That still doesn't make it semantic, sorry. If nothing else, the emphasis on "rendered/rendering" reinforces the idea it's a presentational aspect. It doesn't define WHAT it is (semantics), only HOW it's presented.
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