I think working with web standards is overhyped as 'selling point'. It hardly has any selling points. For a developer it works faster (it does for me) but most clients don't give a rats ass about what makes their site work / look good. Very often they don't even care whether the site works in anything else but MSIE 6. 'It would be nice if Firefox works but it's not THAT important...' is what I often hear.
I don't even know many web companies in Holland (where I live) that have strict use of web standards as a company policy. I myself do it because it saves ME time. The use xml, it renders on any device story is nonsense too. Hardly any site works well on mobile phones which are the most important kind of devices. Don't get me wrong, I love web standards. They just aren't a selling point unless you happen to encounter a client with a geeky side. Just my 5 cents... Marco -- Marco van Hylckama Vlieg - Senior Web Developer http://www.i-marco.nl/ On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Cook, Graham R wrote: > I have never come across a designer who says "I'll throw the page > together any way I can as a quick and dirty job". Mind you looking at > some of the results from designers I'm sure that is what they have done. > > If you simply state that you "design using web standards as one of your > fundamental building blocks because of their many benefits" you will > come across as being professional. If it also piques the client's > interest to ask what the benefits are, then you can go on to explain the > many many benefits. See if you can list over 10, for both the client and > yourself. > > Graham Cook > > > Standards Manager - Content Integrity > Data & Online > Telstra Technology > 32/300 Latrobe St > Melbourne VIC 3000 > > Ph- (03) 9632 8035 > Fax - (03) 8600 9850 > Mob - (03) 0417 876 869 > Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Find out more about Standards : > http://telstra.com.au/standards/index.cfm > > The information contained in this e-mail message may be CONFIDENTIAL and > may also be the subject of Legal Professional Privilege. If you are not > the intended recipient, any use, interference with, disclosure or > copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have > received this message in error, please reply to this email to advise of > the incorrect delivery and then delete both it and your reply. Thank > you. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of tee > Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2005 3:40 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] Web standards as a selling point? > > Hi, I'd been doing web design on the side since last year. I believe in > web standards, but I am not sure about potential clients who want to pay > me do the job will believe it. For us who believed in web standards, it > all sounds very beautiful and convincing, but for companies who provides > services, they want web sites, they want their web sites looks nice and > professional and they want it to be affordable. They simply want to > know how much it will cost right, nothing behind the scene will interest > them. > > What is the incentive for us to tell potential clients that web > standards is important and how many people in this group successfully > using web standards as selling point for their web design service. Do > you increase your ballpark as a result? > > In my web design site, I do brag about web standards and that I care, > but when I talk to potential clients (so far only two), I didn't even > mention it; they didn't ask either even though they have visited my > site. To me, web standards is something I believe in, but I do not see > any benefit when approaching potential clients. > > > tee > > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > -- iFriends: De i-mode chat/dating community! http://ifriends.i-questo.com/ ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************