maybe this will help you:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/9798.htm

Stefan Lemmen
Holland

On 4/21/05, Stefan Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Daniela,
> 
> My first reply didn't make any sense at all when I looked in it
> further. (I just woke up when I replied)
> 
> I have had the problem myself too. Couldn't find the problem either.
> I'm sure there must be a sollution somewhere.. Maybe you could try
> using some css instead of tables to position inside the frames. I'm
> sure the problem has to do with the combination frames and tables.
> Maybe try to position everything in tables and dont use frames at
> all.. or use frames without using tables. I know this is
> time-consuming. But I cant give you any better advice at this point.
> 
> In the future you take a different approach on positioning stuff..
> take a look at http://www.csszengarden.com
> 
> It gave me another look on designing and positioning.
> 
> Good luck with your project. Hope you find the cause of the problem soon.
> 
> Stefan Lemmen
> Holland
> 
> On 4/21/05, Daniela Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in IE) in the .php-files which worked
> > fine as long as they were .htm-files.
> > Stefan, it can't be anything about the design, I've now put the width of the
> > inner frameset to 760px (was 660) and it's still the same:
> > http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames_test/content_1.php
> > (with 660px width:
> > http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames/content_1.php )
> > And this stupid horizontal scrollbalk appears only in IE , I've tested in
> > Firefox, Netscape and Mac and everything looks and works fine.
> > And Kornel, sure enough from browsers point of view both are just HTML
> > files, I've looked through all carefully and again can't find nothing, what
> > makes it now appear?? (I've validated and in the frameset are 3 errors:
> > frameborder and framespacing, but when take them out these horrible borders
> > appear; and noframes, but that can't have to do with my problem;
> > In "biography.php" validation shows 6 errors, but one about some background
> > in a table and 5 about some alt-tags (I'll fix this now), but could this
> > cause a scrollbalk?)
> > Thanks for all hints,
> > Dani
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stefan Lemmen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar in IE
> >
> > Hi Dani,
> >
> > I think I found the error
> >
> > <table width="637" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
> > background="opmaak/bg_table_n.jpg">
> >  <tr>
> >    <td height="20"></td>
> > <td></td>
> >    <td valign="bottom" class="pijl"><a href="#beneden"><img
> > src="opmaak/pijl_ben.gif" alt="naar beneden" width="12" height="12"
> > border="0"></a></td>
> >  </tr>
> >  <tr>
> >    <td width="637" colspan="3" valign="top" class="content"
> > id="text_content"><p>Peter-Jan Wagemans (1952) is
> >
> > The table should be 637.. but your tds are 637 + 20 (from the image) =
> > 657 together. The td width will overrule the one of the table.. so i
> > think u should try 1st td 617.
> >
> > Hope this helps you.
> >
> > On 4/20/05, Daniela Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > hi all,
> > > ok, I work with frames, but my client want's that (and a content manegment
> > > program, so he can update himself).
> > > But now I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in IE) in the .php-files which
> > > worked fine as long as they were htm-files:
> > > http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames/content_1.php
> > > (the htm-files were
> > > http://www.atelier-hoffmann.com/wagemans_opt1/ , when he
> > > approved of the design). I've tried to widen the frameset but everything
> > > gets wider and the scrollbar stays put.
> > > And when I validate this frameset there are 3 errors: 'frameborder' and
> > > 'framespacing', but when take them out these horrible borders appear;
> > > and 'noframes', but I thought I could put some text there like "get
> > > another
> > > browser ect" (I'm new to webstandarts, I've learned it that way 3 years
> > > ago).
> > > I'd love to find out by myself (so many great tutorial sites who's URL's
> > > I've found in this group), but now I've got this deadline..., someone
> > > knows?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Dani
> >
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