On 4/22/05, Stevio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <...>
Using tables for layout is also a fairly intuitive thing, so using them was not a problem for people making web sites.
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Yes, that indeed was the case.
Now web is getting mature, so we have to make sites that are easy to USE (and access), not easy to make.
You make a good point but you join two things together there that are not automatically connected.
Easy to use - yes, what we all want Easy to Access - yes, again but not relevant to the above point.
I have seen many to many sites that have had the most horrendously complex <div ...> layouts to get the layout that they want that the accessibility has deteriorated to a great degree, just as bad as nested tables. To my mind the object of a site being "accessible" is that facilities exist for screen-readers and the like to get to content/navigation/whatever as easily as the visual user does. An example is the problem of 3 column layouts, frequently a demand of the client but hard to implement in current css across all browsers. A simple table does that layout in one set of tags compared to several layers in a pure css driven design. That has to be more accessible, surely.
What I mull over is the blurring between "web standards" and "accessibility". They are different requirements and often compete.
We run an Internet Hosting Provider, a small, specialist firm that provides hosting to mainly commercial entities that make their living out of their websites. In general their main interest is getting their websites available to the largest possible audience, simply that. For them a layout that has one table of 3 columns rather than about 5 divs is better simply because it is less hassle for those last few percent of users that could be clients, and they could have as much revenue potential as any other client......
-- yours,
Kym K
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