Maybe I wasn't specific enough, this layout works just fine. My "main" content (middle column) is first in the source code. When I hooked the layout to my database all the clearing worked as promised. My problem is in the <header> and specifically the "subnav" which, in IE, throws the rest of the layout out of whack. The logo and main nav are fixed in size, but I would like the subnav font to size up or down as the rest of the layout does. My original layout was based on the article in ALA, that's where I ran into my clearing problems since it also cleared the left column and doesn't put the main content area first.

Again, the files:

http://vtest.jrations.com/test_page.php
http://www.jrations.com/css/main_final.css

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Wayne Godfrey
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On Jul 4, 2005, at 12:40 AM, David Laakso wrote:

Wayne Godfrey wrote:

I've started building a new template to get my main content section as the first item in the source and solve some of my clearing problems. Works great everywhere, except, now image this, Internet Deplorer. The problem seems to be within either the "nav" or "subnav" lists that follow one another. I've gone around in circles to no avail. The file and CSS both validate and work on Safari, FF and Opera on the Mac side. IE doesn't play on Windows or the Mac side. I'm not sure if its my lists or the layout. Any help will be greatly appreciated. The files:
http://vtest.jrations.com/test_page.php
http://www.jrations.com/css/main_final.css
Wayne Godfrey

Wayne,
I'm sure someone will come up with all the hacks to make it work the way you want. But if not, since your main content isn't the first item in the source anyway, I'd suggest trying a stable 3 col layout that's known to work cross-browser <http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/>. Put it in quirks mode to make it easy on yourself for IE, adjust the widths of the side columns to meet your need, add position relative to anything with a negative margin(for Mac/ie5.2), and enclose the whole ball of wax in a fixed width container-- tweak for Win/5x, and you're good to go... we'll almost.
fwiw, check your current layout with images disabled.
Good luck.
David Laakso







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