Re: [WSG] web stanards detection - is it possible?

[sam sherlock]

further more part of my stratergy is too use some kind of php sniffer script like http://phpsniff.sourceforge.net/ - not straying out of the remit of this list check the following stats produced property_name return value ua mozilla/5.0 (windows; u; windows nt 5.0; en-us; rv:1.7.8) gecko/20050511 firefox/1.0.4 browser fx long_name firefox version 1.0.4 maj_ver 1 min_ver .0.4 letter_ver _javascript_ 1.5 platform win os 2k session cookies Unknown stored cookies Unknown ip 80.44.177.228 language en-us,en gecko 20050511 gecko_ver 1.7.8 html true images true frames true tables true java true plugins true css2 true css1 true iframes true xml true dom true hdml false wml false $client->has_quirk(quirk) must_cache_forms true avoid_popup_windows false cache_ssl_downloads false break_disposition_header false empty_file_input_value false scrollbar_in_way false $client->browser_is(browser) gecko1.3+ true aol false ie6+ false mz1.3+ false ns7+ false op6+ false $client->language_is(language) en true en-us true fr-ca false $client->is(search) b:ns7- false l:en-us true all information gathered with out any need of _javascript_ etc this way it will be easy to check against alist of naughty bad browsers Bret Lester wrote: Curious--how do you check for DOM? BL -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of designer Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:00 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] web stanards detection - is it possible? Hi All, I actually put a non Dom counter on one of my sites a few months ago, to check how relevant it was in this particular case. The site is a holiday letting agency, so the users are of all kinds and from all IT levels. (But mostly English). You can see the detailed stats showing the 'old browser' users here: http://extremetracking.com/open;unique?login=nondom and it's interesting to see how that compares to the 'modern browser hits. The following data is for the last four months and shows the number of users (not pages) for Dom and nonDom: Month Dom NonDom April 494 7 May 516 3 June 494 6 July 191 2 I presume that the figures are reliable enough and I expect these figures to be representative of sites which are not 'specialist'. I found it interesting, so I thought some of you may do too, esp in view of this recent discussion. Bob McClelland www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************