Hi Nick, Producing a .doc may seem incongruous, but it is just one of around 150 documents covering all Telstra's online standards including wap, platform, styleguides information architecture etc. They are also a part of the overall online documentation repository which includes many product brochures and externally sourced documents comprising over 25,000 files. There is/was an ongoing project to convert these to more accessible formats but since they closed my department (Online Standards) I don't know of the progress now (if any).
Grgards Graham Cook UA Oz -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2005 2:59 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org I first wanted to say thanks to Derek and Graham for providing all this really great info. Not that I'm fussed and purely playing devil's advocate but I cannot help but see some kind of irony in having an accessibility guideline document in .doc format. It's like the righteous word scribed on the devil's stationery or something, I can hear the indignant echoes of the do not send .doc files argument [1]. I did want to comment that the form error in the label suggestions Derek gave have really got me thinking about how my CMS returns users to forms and alerts them. I was simply having the form errors at the top of the page and changing the appearance of the relevant field's label. This is clearly not good enough for screenreaders and until listening to (WE05 podcast) and reading the examples I had not thought through to a good solution. I presume that what would be best would be a combination of a message like "Please check the errors indicated in the form below" ...at the top of the form and have the "this must not be blank" on the relevant field(s)? Thanks, Nick [1] http://www.google.com/search?q=do+not+send+word+.doc+files > Hi all, > > January this year, when I was still working for Telstra I rewrote their > Universal Accessibility Guidelines document > http://www.telstra.com.au/standards/docs/accb_03001.doc. You may be > interested to have a look at the section on forms and the examples I > wrote > there. > > Regards > > Graham Cook > UA Oz > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Derek Featherstone > Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:56 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: RE: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org > > On 10/11/05, Terrence Wood wrote: > >> Agreed, you are absolutely correct. Doh! I didn't acutally check the >> source code, no wonder my earlier post was confusing. Sorry Derek. > > No worries... > >> If anyone *is* interested in replicating Dereks layout without the >> extra div's try this: > > <snip /> > > for what it's worth - I did try using that at certain points, but > generally preferred to add in explicit divs to provide another hook for > styling. YMMV - I also preferred to place each "row" in a block level > element so that without author styles each form field and its label is > still on a row of its own, though that use case may not be as > important. > > Now then, I'd better get back to it so that I can post the second round > of examples... :) > > Cheers, > Derek. > -- > Derek Featherstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] > tel: 613-599-9784 1-866-932-4878 (toll-free in North America) > Web Development: http://www.furtherahead.com > Personal: http://www.boxofchocolates.ca > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > > ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
