brillant thanks,
Adding overflow: hidden; to .navcontainer ul does exactly what i need it to in firefox-i.e didnt respond to it. http://www.mcmonagle.biz/otinavtest.htm Ted: Adding the overflow: y-scroll property takes care of ff and ie. -thanks Joseph: I tried wrapping the lot in the below div but it dosnt have any effect and the other elements are just li so i might be missing something. #fakewrap{ width:0px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; } thanks a mill -best kevin ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
